they met other beings. how else would they have made piece with the elves?

either way, wild dragons are most likely out of the picture in this

Yeah, but not their Eldunari!

i seriously doubt that, but it's possible i guess

But Eragon was told that the eldunari that Galbatorix stole were forced to do Galbatorix's work... it said that Galbatorix bent their minds, this might mean that the captured eldunari might have become evil, and may not help Eragon even if he does save them...

or maybe they'll pretend to be on his side, but kill him when he's not paying attention

well that's a twisted theory but it makes sense.

i'm a twisted person. lol very twisted

i think the dragons enjoy freedom to much to kill there saviour.

I agree, DuBrisingrEbrithil. BUT if their minds are twisted, as sj said, they might try to kill Eragon B4 he has they chance to twist their minds back. But if Eragon can fin the RoK and open the VoS, he might can convince they other Eldunari to join Eragon and desert Galbatorix.

i'm glad you get it dragons just enjoy their freedom to much to do any thing to endanger their chances

not if they didn't view eragon as their saviour.





except according to what we're talking about right now, galby is already dead

come on i think it would make the book a hundred times better if they had roran and eragon, or maybe even arya, (as sad as that sounds), break into the fortress and get at least a few eldunari's.

that sounds like a d&d adventure

sounds like suicide. lol if galby's not dead and you walk into his magical booby trap, good luck. bye bye arya and roran and eragon and saphira

I think the only way to beat galby is to get some of his eldunari

except he isn't going to be able to get them until galby's dead (unless the VoS has eldunaris, but the VoS would need to have thousands upon thousands upon thousands to have more than galby)

i reckon Vos will make eragon phyically strong like kind of strengh his soul as if he himself were a bunch of eldunari

well that's why it wwould make sense if the VoS was like a lake of energy

yeah and eragon kinda absobed a load of it in to broms ring and himself

or maybe he dives into it and it gives him infinite energy for infinitiy

yeah he would become like a god and then all the dwarf and urgal gods would try kill him but he would whoop them

yeah, and then he renames alagaesia so he doesn't have to leave it.

yeah and then he wipes the entire dwarf race's memory of murtagh killing their king and every one lives happily ever after

oh, that's nice mate. just nice...

see even you are happy thinking about happily ever afters for eragon and arya

yeah surrrre



but for the sake of the topic...


galby=deyja=then eragon gets eldunaris

yeah. oh hears a thought do you reckon eragon could find a way to turn eldunari back into dragons ???

if he was a god, yeah probably he could

that would be so cool loads of dragons

yeah, and then glaedr would be back

Lol, no offense, but you two come up with some pretty crazy stuff when you're left on your own.


I don't think so, that would take WAY to much energy. Not only that, but it would take differing amounts for each dragon, because they were all different sizes.

yeah but if eragon had god like power that would not matter (i do admit we come up with some crazy stuff but thats when theres no one else to talk to)

its mostly my fault too (crazy stupid idiotic me lol)


but yeah, if the VoS was a pool of infinite, never-ending energy, and eragon dived into it, became a god, then the energy part wouldn't be a problem

well if it is neverending power then he could overthrow the gods and find out which ones are real which was a huge debate between him and his mind and oromis

IM SOOOOOOO HAPPY to be BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

sj you said it sounds like suicide, but didn't you want arya to die? this would be a good way to do it.

Lol, it's okay, sj. We already know you're insane.

I don't think so. If that happened I'm sure there would be a major catch to it. I mean, who's gonna leave a source of infinite energy laying around? (lol, jk)

a lot of people, even arya, islanzadi, and oromis had not even heard of it. so maybe only eragon and solembum have really even heard of it.

yeah.


but back on topic of the eludnaris that galby has...well, they're probably gonna sit there until galby's dead

and then eragon will have to un-corrupt them with all of his other, noncorrupted eldunaris that he finds in the VoS

if eldunaris are really in the VoS

What else could be in there? A scroll with TN's on it? Eragon knows plenty of those.

no, an actual lake of souls like human souls

human souls just disappear into nowhere, they don't have eldunari's

i didn't say they had eldunaris. i just said the VoS could be a lake of souls, meaning that when humans die, their souls immediately go to this lake. they don't have to have eldunaris

true, though i'm betting on eldunaris being in the VoS

yeah, so am i, but i'm just thinking that unless there are thousands on thousands of eldunaris in the VoS, it won't be enough to defeat galby

What if the VoS does contain a lake full of human souls, it could be like the lake of fire. Humans who were criminals or such in life could be sent there to await a time they could atone for their crimes, and move on to where ever. When I say atone, I mean help Eragon take down Galbatorix. (That is NOT how it works with the actual lake of fire in the Bible...please don't delete this, it was just an idea that happened to have a biblical reference.)

sounds more like purgatory to me...

sounds cool i just want eragon to have god like power

yeah, but that'd kinda kill the story...eragon becomes a god, then what? he destroys galby and lives in god-world forever?

what if the vault of souls is a hide out for a couple of dragons?

well then they'd be old dragons and not of much use to eragon

no cause old dragons are more powerful and clever aren't they like gladre

well if they've been stuck in a hole for a couple of milleniums, they'll probably be really stiff and can't move well

you trying to say that the dragons will OAPs

yeah, i think


really, the question of this topic has been answered

oh really whats the answer then ??

no, cuz eragon would die if he even got near galby's eldunaris

ok i should feel silly that was obvious and i think i said something like that a while ago

Eragon might not die because if he can find the RoK and open the VoS, he can have the help of the Eldunari that are probably in there. The other thing that Solembum said was true but in a different way. Eragon needed help to make Brisingr the sword, which Rhunon helped him with. But Arya might could help him here. I don't really know. It's a theory. Plus if there is a lot of Eldunari in there, say over 100, how would he be able to carry them? Would he store them in camp? He won't always be near the Varden when he needs the help of the Eldunari's.

thats why Vos should increase the amount of energy his body gains and retains

But how will Eragon access the supply of energy/strength if he cannot be near it?

well if it increases his bodies strengh then he doesn't need to carry anything

How can it increase his strength if he cannot tap into the flow of energy within the Eldunari?

no what im saying is eragon has energy in his body ok so if vos some how increases that

I don't know how it could, because how would Glaedr's Eldunari do that? Wouldn't have already done that is that's possible?

we don't know do we cause thats the thing Vos is unknown to us

But I just reread what Oromis said and he said that you can draw off the energy as lojng as you're either in contact or can feel the presence but we don't know how the Eldunari's make the energy.

oromis said that it's just magic and nobody knows

Yes, but Eragon also wondered how he could separate Galby from the Eldunari and Galby would lose a lot of his power and "wouldn't be stronger than a normal Dragon Rider." (a quote from Brisingr the book.)

here's a quick thought how did variel (the leader of the dragon riders) get strong enough to defeat galby at vroenguard i think this will have something to do with defeating galby

because at vroengard, galby wasn't as powerful as he is now...galby was just some pissed off little punk. lol

Exataly. He got mad 'cause the Urgals killed Jarnunvosk and demanded another dragon. The he got peed of 'cause the Elders wouldn't give him another dragon so he went on a killing spree and stole Shruikan.
Galby wasn't as strong 'cause he didn't have as many Eldunari as he has now. And wouldn't you think Vrael, leader of the Dragon Riders, would be more powerful than a begginer but murderer.

yeah, but not galby has tons of eldunaris...and probably spells around them. so eragon's not gonna be able to steal them before galby's dead

An outsider could distract Galby enough where Eragon can sneak in under disguise like kis father, Brom, did at the castle in Uru'baen.

yeah, but galby probably has some magic to warn him when an intruder is entering the eldunari room...then galby would just kill eragon with ease

Yeah, but Eragon could cast a counterspell.

not if he never saw it coming

yeah but galby still had some eldunari when he fought variel

but not as many as he has now...and vrael was really powerful

but how can eragon defeat galby when he is so much weaker than him?

that's the point, he won't be able to. except with the VoS. then when galby's dead, eragon can save the eldunaris

Eragon finds the VoS and rescues the Eldunari that are supposedly in there, and kills Galby. Easy enough.

Im don't think that there will be eldunari in Vos because c.p seems to have built things up to obvious ends and then twisted away from them

@IL12: there probably aren't going to be eldunaris in the VoS...cuz there's no way there could be enough in there for Eragon to defeat galby and his thousands upon thousands of eldunaris.

i think someone would've found it if that was the case...and how would a mountain fit under a rock called kuthian?

cuz solembum told eragon that when all was lost and his strength was insufficient, look under the rock of kuthian and speak his name to open the Vault of Souls

why would eragon have to go to the rock of kuthian and speak his name if the vos wasn't there?

seems like no one but solembum does

galby doesn't have that many, hundreds, but not thousands.

the RoK could be in front of the mountain with the VoS in it.

or they could not be related to eachother at all. i'm going with eldunaris being in the VoS.

even so...eldunaris are big...a vault most likely couldn't contain too many...unless it opened to a huge cavern as big as tronjheim

yeah but that would mean every dragon ever probaly would have torn out their eldunari to fill just a small portion of a vault like tronjheim

well that would make sense, wouldn't it? eragon would need that many to defeat galby