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 The green dragon - already hatched? 
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It's a fact already that the cover of the third book is green with a green dragon on it, and from all the posts I've read the general concensus is that the final egg in Galby's possession is green and will hatch in the next book for the last Rider. Take a look in Eldest on page 449 in the chapter "Broken Egg and Scattered Nest" and find the line that says "He even stepped upon a sharp object that, when he bent to examine it, proved to be a fragment of a green dragon egg." To me this suggests that the green dragon could already be out there with another Rider waiting to reveal himself/herself. It makes no mention to the age of the fragment, so it could be possible. The book says that dragons have not lived in that place since their war with the elves, but it could be that an egg was overlooked by the elves and laid in wait there, since the eggs can wait indefinitely for the right person, and someone came across it and the egg hatched for them. I have no ideas as to who it could be if this were the case, but it seems a likely possibility to me. The only thing that escapes me is how, if this were the case, could this event take place and the elves or Oromis and Glaedr not sense it. It could also be possible that the egg hatched on its own and the green dragon is wild and without a Rider.


May 5th, 2006, 3:11 am Profile
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i think the shell is to put more infasis on the story myself, but that is a good idea.
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...the third egg of galby's is VERY protected.
..not all eggs waited for some one. just those with the spell said over them. a wild dragon egg will wait until the right time for them though.
...so this could be possible. i suppose. :wink:

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arya-saphira wrote:
i think the shell is to put more infasis on the story myself, but that is a good idea.
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...the third egg of galby's is VERY protected.
..not all eggs waited for some one. just those with the spell said over them. a wild dragon egg will wait until the right time for them though.
...so this could be possible. i suppose. :wink:


i agree with the infasis on the story part

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Is it possible that wild dragons still live in the elves wooded realm? If so then a green hatchling could be the 3rd dragon. The dragon on the next book cover.

It seems to me, to be an obscured topic. Little evidence from any of the other characters comes to my mind. I am inclined to say "no" that this is not the green dragon we're looking & hoping for.

BUT I will look into finding stuff in support of this theory, while rereading the second book.
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That egg was from when the Dragons and Elves warred agianst each other. Saphira tells Eragon that no dragon has lived there since then. Also, it is hard to reach unless you could fly, though Eragon used a spell to rise to the top. Finnally, Elves think of it as kind of a graveyard so no elf would go there for any reason and if you read the line the egg shells were dull so basically it is saying that if the egg had hatched it would be VERY old. There are only so many colors of dragons and CP just used a color.

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Also, dragon eggs are very durable. "You could take a hammer to it, and it wouldn't leave a scratch". The egg could have been there from a very long time ago. Besides, Oromis and Glaedr would have been able to sense the dragon's hatching. Now the only question is if the dragon's rider will be for or against Galbatorix. Or maybe neither.


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We know that the third egg, the green one is male, because Murtagh said that they needed saphira to mate with the other eggs, because she's the only female left.
Also, that fragment could have been from ages ago. I think that Roran will get the third dragon, cuz then it would stay in the family, you know, eragon, Murtagh and roran. He is just as strong as eragon isnt he.

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i think that the next dragon will be green or the green could just symbolise jealousy i say this because galby is certainly jealous of everybody with a rightfull dragon! Do you think shruikan knows he has been stolen and will he turn against galby to help eragon? The green dragon may hatch (in my opinion) for one of two people: one-Arya
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Who do you think is it likely to be i mean arya-green magic, green dragon?


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No, I don't think its possible that the green egg has hatched.

1. Usually,in my opinion, that the eggs don't hatch unless the chosen rider touches the egg.
2. Don't you think King G. would put a sort of spell on it? Of course he wouldn't want it to hatch. What if it came into the hands of the Varden?

That's my opinion.

P.S. Arya is not going to be the next dragon rider!

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Warrioress wrote:
No, I don't think its possible that the green egg has hatched.

1. Usually,in my opinion, that the eggs don't hatch unless the chosen rider touches the egg.
2. Don't you think King G. would put a sort of spell on it? Of course he wouldn't want it to hatch. What if it came into the hands of the Varden?

That's my opinion.

P.S. Arya is not going to be the next dragon rider!


what do you mean?? YES he wants it to hatch.. hes been trying for sooo long..

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I didnt say the egg has already hatched but if you dont think ayra will be the next rider then who, nasuada?


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never, never, never i wont belive a word u say
the egg has not hatched and aryas gunna be the next rider

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i dont think dat the third egg hatched yet, but it is a possibility. but y wud its remains b there? wudnt they b wit galbatorix?? and if it did hatch, galby wudnt keep it a secret. the third rider wud have prolly accompanied eldest in the battle against eragon at the end of the book!


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remember galby :evil: tricked shruikan into working for him with black magic maybe he did the same this time or somebody could have stolen the egg wich by the way is not hatched yet none of the possible dragon riders to be have said or shown anything that might lead us to believe that it did!


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I didn't know that the last book was going to be green, though that's what my friend and I were guessing... That fragment of eggshell Eragon stepped on was probably just an old piece of dragon egg, it is highly unlikely that the third egg has hatched.
I'm guessing the third egg will probably hatch for Arya, or maybe Roran(but I'm not too sure about him...).
We also can't rule out the possibility of a new character.


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the piece of dragon shell eragon stepped on could also be a wild dragons egg if eragon and saphira could go search for wild dragons they would have a better chance of defeating galby but it could also be that murtaghs dragon hatched there or something. If the green dragon has hatched it will be for a new character because nobody thus far have shown any signs of dragon activity and they would surely tell eragon because he's been through it :?: :D


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Dragons haven't lived there since their battle with the Elves. There wou;d be evidence of that if they did. The fragment is ancient. It can't be someone new. It HAS to be Arya becuse, 1. Shs will need minimal training, 2. she's an Elf and a woman, so she will kinda balance everything out. There are many other reasons, but I won't get into them all.

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if itt is ancient why was it so well preserved and how did it get there? Everybody is going nuts over arya being the next rider (mee included) but what happens if it is a new character or someone like angela?

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I'MNOTCRAZY wrote:
Dragons haven't lived there since their battle with the Elves. There wou;d be evidence of that if they did. The fragment is ancient. It can't be someone new. It HAS to be Arya becuse, 1. Shs will need minimal training, 2. she's an Elf and a woman, so she will kinda balance everything out. There are many other reasons, but I won't get into them all.


Save your excuses for other discussions.


I think that egg fragment has nothing to do with the green dragon. It is probably, like Saphira said, a shattered egg. Egg shells can last for a long time.

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Excuses? My excuses are better than yours, but you are too stuborn to realize it.

The fragment just happens to be green. It could have been purple. it doesn't matter.

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hey i thik we can settle that we are all equally stubborn but being stubborn and bickiring over the egg fragment wont change the book. although i think the dragon isnt hatched yet we will just have to wait and see what empire says we could all be proven wrong!


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Everyone seems to think the new rider will be arya or roran but I think the new rider will be someone else most likely someone we know about but is still a little misterious(?)
I really don't think it will be roran b/c he was never as good at huting or things like that as eragon

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Yeha, but Arya is perfect. Like who were you thinking???

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Arya is not perfect!. No one is perfect, not even elves.

He could be right, you know. About the rider being someone else we didn't think of before.

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now we're talking! The major flaw elves have is that they can bottle up thier emotions for years! The next rider could be somebody we didnt even think of like orik or nasuada :D

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I'm not making any claims to who the next Rider is, my only point was that the green fragment could be the egg the dragon on the next cover hatched from. And who's to say that the green dragon will be the only dragon to surface in book 3? If the green dragon turned out to be a wild dragon, that would create a balance to the equation, albeit in a different way - we'd have evil dragons, a good dragon (or dragons, depending on whether more than one arise in the next book), and a wild dragon. That fragment of egg could prove to be insubstantial, but why out of all the colors to choose from, would CP choose green and then put a green dragon on the next cover? Might be important, might not, only time and CP's imagination will tell. Another point is that the eggs Galby had were the only ones known to exist, but knowledge and actuality are two entirely different things.


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If it didnt matter why did he put it there? :?: I think it could be a wild dragon egg since i dont believe that the green dragon has already hatched

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i don think so.
elves put magic in the egg to hatch if the dragon finds a fiting rider.


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what if galby used black magic on the egg just as he did with shruikan

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I don't think you can reverse the spell. Besides, why would he want to? He never did it to the two other eggs.

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he didnt get the chance

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He had both of those eggs for like a hundred years!!!

Besides, why would galby want wild dragons?? Remember, they are not loyal to anyone. He wanted Riders who served him.

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who knows how a phsyco's mind works! Espescially if he has black magic

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Oromis said that he was crazy, yet cunning. He is smart enough to realize that he would not benefit from turning the spell around. (Besides the fact that the spell is probably irreversible.

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He had both of those eggs for like a hundred years!!!

Besides, why would galby want wild dragons?? Remember, they are not loyal to anyone. He wanted Riders who served him.

I agree with you. Remember he killed all the wild dragons?

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I think that the egg should already be hatched because if it hates in the third book we would have to wait ages for the Dragon to mature and its rider to be able enough to use magic.


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Why does everyone think the egg has hatched??!

It's so obvious that is hasn't. Even if the dragon was really good at hiding, someone should have seen it by now.

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ok here we go....

the next rider HAS to be a girl, because of eragon's dream he had right after he brought garrow to carvahall after the Razac destroyed the farm (remember, it was two tall people, hand in hand, boarding a ship while two dragons flew overhead). so count off any man, ESPECIALLY Orik (dwarves are not in the spell between elves, humans, and dragons). which leaves only ayra and nausadia, but i HIGHLY doubt that nausadia will get the egg because eragon does not love her and he will love the rider of the green dragon, as will saphira love the green dragon.

the last egg ISNT hatched and is held by Galbatorix. he guards it with his life, but the next rider will get his egg, somehow.

if there was a wild dragon roaming around, dont you think that Galbatorix woiuld have sent either himself after it or Murtagh? and since he hasnt, you can dismiss that theory.

if you feel strongly against what i have said, then you only have to wait until CP finishes the 3rd book. otherwise, this is pretty much all i could decern from the facts he has given us.

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U know loads of theories say that it has to be a girl..y should it because all the dragon riders in the past when they mated with eachother the riders didnt fall in love did they plus they were all men.
Tho i am hopin it a girl :D

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At the end of eldest, it confirms the 3rd egg is a boy, which is why galby needs saphira, and not all writers were men. CP said thta there was the same number of girl and guy riders.

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But in the book oromis says there has neva been a femal rider.
So how can they be the same?? :?

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Oh I dunno. I'll take your word for that, because I don't actually have my own copy of the books.

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lol

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Galby his time tho will protect the egg at all costs coz its the last one left so if it has hatched..and the is a big IF then he would probably keep it secret till da last minute unless of coarse Eragon steals but by the way how is he gonna do that with 2 DRAGON RIDERS who are both stronger than him and manege to get out alive?????
This book will be big but i doubt dat big.
If that paragraph was a bit of topic sorri!!!
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i think it's possible that green dragon is hatched. because in eldest, we never knew that Thorn was born until the last part.


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If the green dragon hatched, it would have to have a rider. Since the rider would probably have to help Eragon defeat galby, I don't think that it really would have hatched yet. Also, remember, Thorn hatched in the second book, which had a red dragon on the cover. The same thing happened with Saphira-she hatched in the first book with a blue dragon on the front. I would think that the last dragon-the green one-would hatch in the third book, with a green dragon on front!!

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very well put Jayde. lol.

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Thank you, IMNOTCRAZY.

Oh and by the way, I'm not going to be harping on about Roran being the next rider. He probably won't. (Okay there you can't rub it in my face!) Arya probably is the logical choice. I just hope she isn't.

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why i hope that arya will be the next dragon rider


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i don't see why people don't like her....

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It might have something to due with her neglect towards Eragon lol

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That's it!!

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it wouldn't be interesting if she mirrored his feeling totally in the very beginning! but I have faith that they will get togeter. coupled with a bit of evidence and some deductive theories, I'm sure of it! actually, there isn't much evidence at all.... but some good theories!

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She at least could be at least a bit nicer to Eragon.


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agreed

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she DID try to be nice, but he went and tried to win her anyways. she had to get serious and take charge.

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who of u really think the dragon is already hatced

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I don't, but I think you know that.

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if it hatches w/o a rider, Eragon is DOOMED.

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we all know that galby has 1 egg left...but is it possible for their to be a small population of dragons somewhere else? maybe on an island, or somewhere else far far far away from alagaesia. saphira might be able to somehow come in contact with one of these wild dragons and ask for them to help defeat the man who killed so many of their kind.

this is probably not going to happen, but wouldnt it be cool if it did?

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then Saphira woudn't have to mate with Greenie, which is bad news for Eragon with Arya.....

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I was actually thinking the same thing.

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No the green dragon couldn't of hatched becuase it's been in Galby's possesion for a long time and it would of hatched by now. No it hasn't hatched yet.

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Yes, I believe that the Green Dragon has already hatched. Remember in Eldest?

Eragon went to find Saphira in the Broken Egg and Scattered Nest place after she got into a fight with Glaedr. And when he was after her, "He even stepped upon a sharp object that, when he bent to examine it, proved to be a fragment of a >green dragon egg<." (Eldest page 449 at the top).

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That seems to be simply pure concidence what would egg fragoment from galby possion be doing their? It just seems to ironic to be true

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Do you really think there will only be one green dragon ever in history?


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Yeah how do you know that didn't come from another green dragon from the past?

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Because, WHY would the author put that in the book if it wasn't important or something?

Why couldn't he make it a purple dragon egg and why would he put that sentence in the book?

Unless he's just trying to throw us off.

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Yeah but it could of come from the past. I'm sure Oromis hasn't gone through every part of the forest.

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I still think the author had a purpose of posting that little word or two about a green dragon egg when the next book was going to have a green dragon on the front of it.

I don't know, I still believe it has hatched.

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He could put it there because green is a common color for a dragon, or he just likes the color.


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Nah. I am sure he put that there for a reason.

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OK, Then how did Galby, the elves greatest enemy, get into the forest and where a bunch of broken eggs are, and have the green egg hatch? Without any of the elves finding out, or triggering off any of there wards.


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OK, Then how did Galby, the elves greatest enemy, get into the forest and where a bunch of broken eggs are, and have the green egg hatch? Without any of the elves finding out, or triggering off any of there wards.


You don't even know if the green dragon is the egg that Galby has. No one knew that Glaedr existed, so maybe it's the same witht he green dragon.

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Naaa.... I don't think so. It is still in the egg in Galbatorix's ???? (Does't know where). The Varden has to still it!!! :) :D :mrgreen:

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I have no doubt that the green dragon will be a good dragon. The varden will be in deep trouble if that was the case- unless Murtagh gets around his oaths and join the good guys.

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I have to agree with you!!! :D The Vardens chance of victory if the 3rd egg hatches on Galbatorixs side: 20.5/100

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^ i disagree. 1/11109028349129038290183928138921839012983902190389012

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Wow!!! :shock: I guess the Varden wouldn't have a chance against Galbatorix the way you put it ChetowaVarden!

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ya. they really wouldnt. they would attack and eragon would be like "O NOES!!!!" and then they ould stab him or chop his head off or somethng of the like.

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It would be wonderfull if Arya was the next rider, she would be perfect. :idea: Even if she isn't I believe the next rider will be female.


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I don't, I'm hoping for Roran being the next rider.

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Yes, I believe that the Green Dragon has already hatched. Remember in Eldest?

Eragon went to find Saphira in the Broken Egg and Scattered Nest place after she got into a fight with Glaedr. And when he was after her, "He even stepped upon a sharp object that, when he bent to examine it, proved to be a fragment of a >green dragon egg<." (Eldest page 449 at the top).


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COULD THERE BE A 4TH EGG BUT IT IS WILD :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :?:


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If you're referring to the quote I posted (Yesh, I am Murtagh_Girl too), then I doubt it. It seems too much of a coincidence that it was a green dragon egg that Eragon stepped on- or a fragment, that is.


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i dont think it is already born. the egg might be one of the many which galby destroyed, or some random person destroyed.

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I agree with the above. I don't think the egg has hatched yet. I mean if it did...where has it been all this time and is its rider just some random person?!

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plus galby should know about it anyway. the egg was supposedly in his hands so he should chenk it sometimes. and its on high sercurity(sp?)

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I highly doubt that the green dragon has already hatched. Who would its rider be then? We know that the rider is someone we have already met throughout the series. No i think the green dragon will hach in Book III - to the varden.

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I agree, CP would make it like that, unless... they didn't know it hatched, but that wouldn't be a very good story.
So i think its gona hatch next book

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I think the egg is still in helgrind and eragon will take it back to varden or it will hatch for katrina.

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but.. eragon still isnt too powerful. i mean, he lost 2 murtagh. so if brom and jeod couldnt steal it, then eragon will have dificulty stealing it with the ra' zac. so maybe, if it hatches 4 katrina, she might pretend 2 be on galby's side and then swap 2 the varden's side.

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