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Post Eragon, possibly die in Empire?
Although yes it would suck if he ended up dieing, what if he did? Just a rough plot...

What if for the final battle, Galbatorix and Eragon ended up stranded alone somewhere, fighting between just themselves, Saphira and Shruiken not with them (though I find it highly doubtful Saphira would leave his side, still, just saying...). While in the final midst of battle, Galbatorix delivers a fatal blow to Eragon, but not enough to instantly kill him, giving Eragon the chance to finish him as Galbatorix feels he has victory at his grasp. Thus ending Galbatorix's reign...but ending Eragons life as well.

Although there are 2 quotes from Angela, in Eragon, that would prove this wrong.

(These are not exact word for word quotes, they are in my own words)
"You will leave Alageasia, and never return"
"You will live a very long life"

From these you would normally think, he's gonna just leave the continent/kingdom of Alageasia or whatever and never come back, as maybe say, going across seas where the Elves came from, and live for a very long time or forever, as Rider's do. But what if...it could possibly be interpreted as:

He will leave Alageasia, yes, dieing would be considered leaving the lands. He will live a very long time doesn't necessarily have to mean he technically "lives". It could mean that his legend and name, as how he rose up to slay Durza and then King Galbatorix, could live on for a long time/forever. So...he dies in the battle with Galbatorix to leave the lands, but for his duty he did, his name will live on.

Any thoughts? Please no criticism or anything, I'm just throwing out ideas :D


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I.......... well technically you are right....i've read the books many times and PAolini certainly noes how to surprise you. But...... I think that he will face Galbatorix AFTER he completes ALL of his training with the elves. So then he will defeate Galbotorix. Then I think that it will explain how he stayed to set up the riders once more and then how he left to explore the lands over the seas, or how the elves agrred to take him to their homeland.

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Well, if he died, that would be leaving Alagaeisa and never returning...

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yea, but it would be sad killed by galbatorix , and then galbatorix does somewhat of a victory dance and gets shanked/stabed by eragon.eragon never really recovers from the wound from galbatorix gave him and eventually dies. :D


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I think what you said about Eragon and Galbatorix fighting each other in the end is true, but I think Eragon will kill Galbatorix and live.

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I don't think Eragon will die, because Paolini seems to be following the classic hero tale, where good conquers evil. Most of the decisions he's made so far have followed this path and I don't think he's going to veer from this course. It was clear that Murtagh and the Twins weren't really dead... following classic treachery within the good side. I predicted that Murtagh was related to him, but I didn't realize they were brothers.... anyways I don't think Eragon will die.


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Saphira Brightscales wrote:
I don't think Eragon will die, because Paolini seems to be following the classic hero tale, where good conquers evil. Most of the decisions he's made so far have followed this path and I don't think he's going to veer from this course. It was clear that Murtagh and the Twins weren't really dead... following classic treachery within the good side. I predicted that Murtagh was related to him, but I didn't realize they were brothers.... anyways I don't think Eragon will die.



well then. u got good eyes then and a good brain for everything that u have read along the lines of good over evil. i think ur right. :D

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lol yea i think its a godd poem also...............and i really hope that eragon doesnt die

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hey Eragon 128
i have read a series of books made in the 30's about dragons (suprising it is really good) and it has some ideas and plots that are in the "Eragon" and "Eldest" books also there are some simalaties from Lord of the Rings.
So my idea from this is that at the end he will travel on an Elven boat off Alagaesia to there home land.... like Lord of the Rings
but before that, i think (like you) that the dragons will not be in the fight, Eragon will be fighting and just as he is about to be killed (he is already wounded) Murtag saves him and either dies or not.
anyway that is my idea so...
if there are any coments on that feel free to write.
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You have a strong arguement, but I don't see it happening... plus CP would probably get a lot of hate mail for killing Eragon in Empire (I dont want him to die either, it would be too sad :cry: )

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I think that if Eragon Died their would be no point in weiting the books so long because of that I think he will live 8) 8)


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To tell the truth, CP knows he would get murdered for killing Eragon, he aint stupid. And im sure he loves eragon just like us

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Yeah, well what if he went to Surda, it techniqly isn't in Alagaesia. you know,


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CP already killed a lot characters in this book but i don't think he would kill eragon too. Maybe the storyline won't go smooth maybe the loss are so much to bear and maybe eragon will end up sad not beeing together with arya or arya died, but eragon will live.

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you know what, i think murtagh fights roran if roran becomes the next rider, and then they team up on galby and galby kills roran and eragon kills galby :twisted:


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Surda is aleagasia, aleagasia is the whole region, you are thinking of the Empire

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i really hope he doesnt die that would be so sad!

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man!! eragon is sooo like harry potter it keeps u speculating whether the lead char wud die or not. and by the way i think harry will die in book 7

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Hey Argetlam89? How many times did you read the books to figure out:

Eragon - E = ragon

Ragon + D = Dragon

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oh be quiet...he said that he is aloser...which he is not...and not to make fun of him.


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Back on topic, when eragon was in the battle at farthen dur, he said that to kill enough urgals with magic to make a difference would be suicide. Maybe that's what it takes to kill galbatorix?

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There is now way eragon will die. His fortune has already been told that he will live forever or for very long. I mean he's only 16-17. Unless he speed his agein at super speed it aint possible.

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True, but the last chapter or something might skip forwars hundreds of years.

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he will leave alageasia, but i dont think he will after he kills galbatorix.


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I have no more ideas, i'll just wait & see. :?

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yes, i had guessed that :)


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Eragon will leave agasia alive not dead

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Possibly, but how do you know?

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1st page of deathwatch eragon theres a dream eragons in the dream it's when hes leaveing Algasia with the elves

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1) It might not be him.
2) It could have been just a dream, not a vision.
3) They might not have been leaving Alagaesia.

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Firetongue wrote:
1) It might not be him.
2) It could have been just a dream, not a vision.
3) They might not have been leaving Alagaesia.


1 it's him u have your own dreams
2 it''s ties in with Angelas vision
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Eragon the 1st elf wrote:
Firetongue wrote:
1) It might not be him.
2) It could have been just a dream, not a vision.
3) They might not have been leaving Alagaesia.


1 it's him u have your own dreams
2 it''s ties in with Angelas vision
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1) I have dreams without me in them.
2) It was a fortune telling, not a vision.
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Angela couldn't have been wrong cos she is a witch

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I wasn't saying she was wrong, I was just saying it was a fortune telling, not a vision. And this is off topic.

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eragon won't die

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eragon will die but no in the 3rd book

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well he might find somthing in the vault of souls that lets him live forever but die if hurt in battle

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i doubt that he can already live forever hes a rider remenber they can live forever

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Maybe somehow Alagaesia will be destroyed. In Eldest, Saphira and Eragon after the Blood-oath Celebration sense impending doom. Maybe everyone in Alagaesia will leave across the seas.


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If he dies in Empire it would definately suck! :cry: Then it will just end like all these other heroe books- brave warrior dies in battle and so creates and immortal legend. So I believe that he wiil live and hopefully meet his mother and marry ayra. Has anyone considered the possibilty of eragon and nasuada? :x


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Yeah, I think theres a topic like that somewhere else^


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the entire point of fantasy books are to keep the readers interested and if it ends just like your everyday story sales will drop i dont think any author would want that i mean you cant just create a character and then kill him/her off. You have a responsibility towards the character and the readers!


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Maybe he would like, bring him back from the dead somehow later in the book.


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Irf eragon dies nobody will be able to bring him back because they would have been wiped out allready!


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guys, eragon is not ganna die. remember when angela read his fortune? she said that he would one day leave alagaesia and never return. :!:


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she could mean he will leave alagaesia and go to the afterlife but i hope not i am with you on this one eragon cannot die!! :cry:


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Eragon is not going to die-especially not in the Empire!

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eragon won't die 'cause when he leaves alagaesia, who is gonna kill him when he reaches where ever he's going? i mean, there's probably no one where he's gonna go

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Of course pirates of the carribean 2 is cool but eragon will be even better! I cant wait for the third book! who is your favorite characters :!: :?: :D


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He's NOT GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Jayde wrote:
He's NOT GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
ERAGON WILL NOT DIE!!! won't u get it through ur heads???

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Some reasons would be good you know. And there is such a thing as an opinion. You don't know that for certain. :|

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yes, but angela said that he'll live a lon g life

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Well yeah, I agree. I'm just saying that telling you're opinions like it's a fact is kinda weird. And a bit rude.

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i don't mean to be rude, i just don't like it when people go on about something that other's say won't happen. who knows? cp may be here himself, and i don't think anybody would want to argue with him about the third book

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*fingers crossed an mumbles softly a mantra that sounds something like* Eragon will not die, Eragon will not die, Eragon will not die, Eragon will not die.

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[color=darkblue]I think he sails over to the lands where the elves first came from. You know?? Sorta like he won't die in Alageasia like Angela fortold.[/color]

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But Angela never read anything about Eragon dying in her prediction.

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She said he wouldn't die in Alageasia.

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no, she said that he will live a long life and leave alagaesia forever

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[color=orange]So that still means he won't die in Alageasia.[/color]

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yes, that's too obvious :roll:

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He won't stay in Alageasia is what I'm saying.

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And what I was trying to expose is the fact that Angela did not predict Eragon's death.

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that's right, she only said that eragon will have a long life

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Geez! Why does people here keep wanting him to to die? I cannot understand it. It would completely ruin the series.

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[color=orange]I'm saying he wouldn't die in Alagesia.[/color]

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I understand that! I honestly wouldn't want the series to go that far.

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i think he'll have a happy ending

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I don't know. He may die from really old age somewhere else in that world or somebody might kill him.

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Well, at least he isn't going to die in the empire because he is supposed to "leave the Empire and never return".

There is something strange though-are the Burning Plains in the Empire??
(You know, the really big battle at the end of Eldest.)

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Scarecrow wrote:
I don't know. He may die from really old age somewhere else in that world or somebody might kill him.


He can't die from old age.


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Jayde wrote:
Well, at least he isn't going to die in the empire because he is supposed to "leave the Empire and never return".

There is something strange though-are the Burning Plains in the Empire??
(You know, the really big battle at the end of Eldest.)

it's not part of the empire, but part of alagaesia, and angela told eragon that he would leave alagaesia forever

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How can Eragon not die?

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because dragon riders can only die if they are killed or if their dragon is killed

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I thought it was if the Rider dies the Dragon dies? I don't know, ask Anniebee.

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July 27th, 2006, 11:28 pm Profile
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u have to remember that shruikan's rider was killed when galbatorix was stealing him

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I thought it was if the Rider dies the Dragon dies? I don't know, ask Anniebee.

That's true in Dragonriders of Pern, not in this series.
Brom's dragon was killed and Brom lived on. Oromis mentioned that when this happens the Rider is only half-alive. On the other hand we have Shruikan whose Rider was killed. However we don't have much to draw upon, since after Shruikan's rider was killed, Galbatorix forced him into servitude through black magic.

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yea, but dragons and riders can still live without eachother

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That's why Saphira and Eragon pacticed seperating conciousnesses with Glaedr.


July 28th, 2006, 5:23 pm Profile
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they did? i didn't remember reading that

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July 28th, 2006, 5:37 pm Profile
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I can't remember where to check. Oromis was sick.


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i'll have to look for it the next time i read Eldest

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July 28th, 2006, 6:49 pm Profile
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Im pretty sure it is before the blood-oath celebration.


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That was exactly my point! BUT we don't know the details if the Rider dies and the dragon survives!

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I'm pretty sure they could. But maybe Shruikan's rider is still alive..?


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No, we are told Galbatorix killed him!

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Ok, now I remember, I was tired when I posted last time.


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Glenwing wrote:
To tell the truth, CP knows he would get murdered for killing Eragon, he aint stupid. And im sure he loves eragon just like us


i agree...all of his fans would be extremely sad and disappointed. but i still say it could happen. there is always the possibilty of it occuring but somehow i don't think CP would do that to his fans and whatnot. at least eh better not...


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