LOL!! That's got to be the craziest idea on this forum.

yes i totally agree with you saphirarox.. and if it was true i would be mad that he got a copy of empire b4 i did!!!!

no he wouldnt, because the copy has to come out for him to get it also

oh ya.. lol what ever i still dont think it will happen

thta would be pointless if it did happen, anyway it will be broms sword i bet

I don't know all I think is going to happen in the end is he kills Galbatorix and sails away to the Elvish land. Maybe Saphira is going to have a couple of dragon eggs but that's it. Do you think Roran is going to be the next Dragon Rider? The questoin is how is he going to get the egg?

roran better not be a rider

well i think that the last egg is in helgrind and when eragon and roan go to rescue katrina roan finds it and touches it and he becomes the rider

that actually could happen

ya i think i read it in a topic somewhere on this forum..

o, well we should get on topic then

or it could just be Broms sword and already be blue

It could be a Were Cat kitten, i mean they have alsorts of power, that klitten could give eragon his true name 2 open the vault of souls, tht would b sorta weird but unexpected i guess

yea, like the kitten in my avatar

ya.. eragon's gona use a cat to cut people's heads off. NO.. whats he going to do w/o a sword.?? nothing its brom's sword thats under the tree

thats the most logical thing that would happen

No, he'll throw it like a hairball and it's scratch galby's face up, and while thats happening, Eragon'll kick him in a place it hurts.

or the kitten can have a sniper rifle and shoot galby in the head

u r CRAZY but i dont think there is a physical item under the tree but something that eragon does not know about until he really needs it

yea like a great energy reserve

defintely, all else but a sword is useless

ok lets stay on topic though, you dont know how many times ive gotten in trouble

yea its gotta be a riders blade otherwise that would be kinda g*y

the ONLY thing Eragon needs right now is a sword and some more training, nothing a trip to Ellesmera won't fix!

you know who needs a little weight training and technical swordsmanship, vanir. so he could own eragon then lol back on topic yea a lot of problems will be solved when gets back to ellesmera

Eragon matches the "most athletic elf" in strength, so weight training wouldn't help.

do you even know what weight training is

YEAH I DO!!!! It's not going to help!!!

of course it will help

What part of Eragon matching the most athletic elf don't you get??!!

It must be Brom's sword then. But I say that llittle thing about Roran going to save katrina and him accidently touching the egg is going to happen.

IT'S NOT IN THE HELGRIND!!! Why would Galbatorix move it from his impenetrable castle where even Brom said it was impossible to steal and then put it in the care of the Ra'zac??? It doesn't make any sence!!! Besides, Arya's already the next dragon rider, which I have mentioned and proven a million times!

What's with you and this Arya dragon thing? Tell me all this proof stuff you found. I've never heard any of it.

this might take a while... where to start.... 1. she has green magic, though not total proof, it is an indicator. 2. she is a great spell caster, making her need WAY less training 3. she's a great warrior.
4. it would solve Eragon's love problem, which from CP's point of view is probably a BIG reason.
2+3=5. she and Eragon would actually stand a chance against Galbatorix and Murtagh...
I could go on forever, but here's a good start

6. the next riderr wil be vanir
7. no im not the only person saying that

back on subject, Solembum never said that a weapon is under the tree. he said that it is under the ROOTS of the tree. u have 2 remember that the tree has an elf inside it. so, a weapon could be within that elf's family

how do you know she had family

Elvenwarrior, opinion, opinion, opinion. All elves have a house, it's kinda like the dwarves' clans. One of the two Elven families holding a Rider's blade probably have a blue one, maybe even Brom's. It'd be his "Inheritence"

her family could be dead though

Because Solembam said it, they are most likely not dead. As Arya said, there is no sword under the roots of the Menoa Tree.

ok good point, i hate it when your right

You must hate me a lot then.

no i just always hate it when im wrong

You have to stop hating so much!!!

i dont hate that much really

But really, other than me being right and you being wrong, and us fighting about who's going to be the next Rider (cough, Arya, cough), what's your problem with me???!!!

get over it, vanir is the new rider, i mean ive met 2 people who agree with me

I've met WAY MORE THAN THAT WHO AGREE WITH ME! Besides, you have no proof or any factual basis for your belief whatsoever!!!

your right i have no proof that my argument is non-factual

That makes no sence at all!!! What you ment to said is that you have no proof that your argument is factual.

you wish i meant that

You twisted my words! you should be a lawyer (jj )!!! I never said that! Are you blind, or do you have a selective memory, because I said no proof OR any non-factual basis. You forgot/overlooked the OR!!!

i know you just said that i dont have a non-factual basis therefore i have a factual one

I still say the next Rider is Roran. Anyway when did Arya say there isn't a sword under the menoa tree? It's not that I don't believe it's just that I would like to know. Well I might know soon I'm rereading Eldest and I just finished Eragon for the third time.

it was during Eragon's stay in Ellesmera, though that's not much of a help. I'll check...

Here it is... pg. 305 "So far as I know, no weapon is hidden here, not even in song or legend."

This leads me to believe that the alternate definition of "roots" is applicable. The sword is held by the Elven house that Linnea had belonged to.

At first I thought it was when he got that special little power boost at that ceremony, could that be it?

Little power boost??? You mean going crazy because of the magic during the Blood-oath Ceremony??? Or do you mean his transformation???? Neither of them have anything to do with what Solembam said!!! He needs a SWORD!!! A sword fits the profile!

P.S. The sword might be with the family of the elf man who wooed Linnea. He is the reason that the Menoa Tree came into existence.

That could be true too. But I always thought that ceremony was the power under the Menoa Tree.

Saphira said that it would make sence when there need was apparent, and nothing has been said about it since.

I'm just saying. I'm rereading it anyway so I'll just have to look for myself.

Not in song or legend but when a werecat says something they mean it, and a sword is one of the only logical things that can be under there

ROOTS have another definition and you would have realized the significance of this if you were paying attention! Roots can mean the origin of something. So one of the two swords that are held by elven families are held by the family of either Linnea or her former lover.

If it wasn't the ceremony then it may be a sword maybe Brom's or Linnea's or something.

It may be Brom's sword, because it would be Eragon's "inheritence". It may not be because then why would Brom have asked Rhunon-Elda for a new sword, unles his sword turned up later??? Anyways, it is probably held by the family of Linnea or her lover.

Maybe he put it under for the next powerful Rider then he was without sword so he ask Rhunon-Elda for new sword because he didn't have one.

that just sounded confusing

1) He put it under the tree for the next rider.
2) He was without a sword so he asked Rhunon-Elda for a new sword because he didn't have one.

yes, but there's more than one definition for the term ROOTS

Roots- vines that the tree is based on, the bottom most part of the tree.

roots- the origins of something

He did not put it under the Menoa tree! If he did put it under the tree, he would have not have made such a big deal about getting another!

i definatly agree with I'MNOTCRAZY. why would brom make such a big deal about getting a new sword if he put his under the menoa tree?

how do we know that HE put it there, someone else, even solembum himslef, could have out it there

will u get in straight, elvenwarrior!?! NOTHING is under the menoa tree! there is a WEAPON under the ROOTS of the menoa tree!!!

fine, under the ROOTS IMNOTCRAZY2

i'm sorry, and i'm not I'MNOTCRAZY2! it's just that i thought that everybody else realized the other definition for roots was in play here when arya said that there is nothing under the menoa tree

There were bound to be other smart, rational people in this forum, and dragon_lover is one of them. he just came to the same conclusions as me.

Are we talking tree roots or roots like the bottom most part?

Roots like the origin of a family.

So the roots of the Linnea family has the sword?

so eragon has elf ancestors

It's not Eragon the First's sword!!!!!!!! Mutagh, shut up!!! One of the two elf families that has one of the rider's blades is the family that Linnea belonged to. This is the family which will give Eragon his blade.

So he gets his sword from one of the two families.

Exactly. I was just thinking that someone may have found Brom's sword after he lost it, so that Eragon may get his real father's blade! (I would have proof for this in my sig, but there wasn't room with my Arya stuff)

jsut a question but how can family be UNDER the roots of the meno tree

Maybe Solembam just wanted to be cryptic. Just like Bladgen, don't expect a straight answer.

Yeah he's always using riddle.

If it wasn't in riddles, we wouldn't be talking about it! Also, then everybody would know what's going to happen! That's no fun!

Then he must be telling us because when you're need of a weapon look under the Menoa Tree, it could be look at the base of the Tree, maybe there's something there. And I'm not talking about underground I'm talking about the base trunk.

Remember what Arya said. There is no weapon under the Menoa Tree, niether in Song or Legend.

Then what weapon could he be talking about, Unless it's the Blood Oath Ceremony that was the weapon?

A Riders sword, possibly Brom's, that was recovered by Linnea's family will be given to Eragon.

Isn't Linnea dead? How could the family have gotten the sword?

Her house, kind of like the dwarf clans.

Which part of the elves is she from?

thank you, I'MNOTCRAZY. i think we believe in the same thing when it comes to theories.