i heard from my freind from school called eric that

after galby is dead roran becomes king, urgals get a piece of land to make their country, the roran makes peace with urgals, and teaches them farming skills.... and ... every one is happy the end

that could totally happen also what does plausible mean

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you mean possible?

that could very well happen or Nausda takes the throne.

Or it could become a country of anarchism-dream of all hippies

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Urgals have been promised land and if they dont all ready know how to farm then who better then expert Roran.
Thats if Katrina will let him

true but the Elves might teach them how to farm.........

I dont see the urgals and elves getting together

or Roran gives the urgals the hadarac dessert then they get all mad and declare war

Remember sfter Rorans speech about deserting carvahall, Baldor says " you could of convinced an Urgal to become a farmer tonight".

connection???!!!

i think Roran will become a dictator like stalin or mussolini and cause a war with the urgals

i dont think so........ but you cant farm in the hadarac....... not enough water unless thay had wells but that woudnt really work....... so i think the urgals would go to the other side of the hadarac wher there is water

i live in AZ and let me tell you, theres farming in the desert

but look at the meager tools adn intellegence the urgals have, they would not know how and i dont thinke roran would know how to foram in teh dessert seeing how he lived in Carvhall

you just named three big reasons

But these aren't reasons that the entirety of Alagaesia (other than surda, Du Veldenvarden, and the Beors) should bow to him!!!

thats 3/4 of alaegia

YEAH, and you still haven't answered me!!!

actually i dont think he will be king i just thought i would make an argument lol

How do you know he doesnt have royal blood in him????

He might have some of King Palencar's blod in him, but he was upsurped by the Riders, so it wouldn't matter!

roran just a country bumpkin (no offense to anyone) and isnt fit to run a kingdom , i mean he proabably cant even read

Thank you elvenwarrior, I couldn't have said it better myself!!! If Eragon couldn't read, than Roran definately can't!

and rorans probably not to great with math

in eldest, it says that roran cannot read, but can count and use money.

just because he can doesnt mean hes good at it

Well, at least he's not retarded!

Getting back on track, there are no reasons that 3/4 of Alagaesia should bow to him!

i know which is why he wont be king

how do you know he isn't fit to run a kingdom, Eregon used to be no better than him but look how much eregon evolved in two books so a lot can change throughout Empire

Thats true.

yea it took eragon 2 books to evolve, roran only has 1

dut proabably a big book none the less, roran has already evloved though they are minor changes the leadership qualties in him have come forth and his people (carvhall) have trust in him. I can see Roran becoming King and having lots of advisors and being taught how to do math and read and get a basic education I mean Nausauada (spelling) could be a combat advisor because she has that expereiance and the elfs helping to rebuild Alageasia and the dwarfs helping also because they ahve experiance in building. Though thier distrust of humans Eragon has helped them and when SAphria heals the star rose the dwarfs should have great trust in ERagon and Saphria and so ii think they would trust roran also because thier related and Dwarfs take alot of pride in bloodlines. Also the Dragons would help cus saphria would mate with one of the dragons and then we would get a whold new generation of dragons. They would also help Roran with Kingship

. misintentional doube psot

roran isnt a fit king

I think I know a place where the urglas can live and work. The upper parts of the Dwarf city is abandoned. And they could harvest MUSHROOMS!

good point but do you think the dwarfs would abide? I dont think they would

yea the dwarves would never agree to that

But what if the Urgals left alageasia with Eragon?

No, i dont think so.

Besides, dwarves are almost like Orik. They might hate something but they know it's neccesary. The urgals have proven to be allies.

it took eregon two and roran already evolved alot in one book and he has one more book left which equalls two so in all respect roran can still change a lot more

Wouldn't that be the perfect ending. Ok it certainly is possible, no doubt, anything is...but I think it's too much of a good ending or perfect for that matter. Plus I should add that I don't think that Roran will take the throne, for me I think it will be Nasuada instead. The urgals may very well get land in the end, who knows, but I am just not too sure. Hmm...something to think about but, somehow I am doubting it will happen this way.

I thin kthat they know how to farm. They aren't THAT ignorant!

I know...I am just saying that, for me I don't think it may happen like that or in that sort of way. I do believe that they can probably can farm and whatnot. Just for me I don't think it will happen that way...hmm...

They will get land when the Empire falls!

We all know that; afterall it was the price Nar Garzhvog requested in change of fighting for the Varden.
"Blood, Galbatorix's blood. And if the Empire falls, we ask that you give us land, land for breeding and growing, land to avoid more battles in the future. Eldest 609

Well then I think it's pretty much answered right there. Makes you wonder though how much land and where exactly would it be. Has to be somewhere green or something where there is growth and whatnot, I think the Urgals would like that after all that they have done and been through so far in the books.

If Eragon could move water from the river onto the burning plains, thusly puting out the fires, the burning plains would have some of the most fertile soil anywhere! (I was just thinking)

If you take a look at the map of Alagaesia, you would not only wonder but really ask what place would Nazuada be able to give them.? The Beor MOuntains is inhabited by the dwarves, DuWeldenvarden by the Elves, except for the Hadarac desert, the rest is occupied by Humans. No wonder the Kulls wanted to negotiate. They have no place to settle!

What about the spine?

Yes The Spine would be a good place seeing as there are already Urgal villages, am I right? Anyways I rather think The Spine would be well suited since it goes throughout Alalgaesia and it's really big so I think they would have enough land. LOL! I think they might like it in the Hadarac...just kidding...they'd probably fry or something..hehe! Nah..The Spine would probably be the perfect place for them to settle into.

Whta about the burning plains???

I don't think anyon elikes that place, it's so dusty..... well, I don't like it.

Umm...didn't the Urgals want somehwere where they could be happy and have growth and whatnot. Besides the name doesn't exactly inspire something good...it's a thought though...

Yeah, but if Eragon put out the fires, it would be some of the most fertile soil in Alagaesia!

They already live in the Spine.

Then he'd have to do it before he leaves...

Nah sine they already live in the Spine and all and have been settled there for many years,eve more, they would probably just settle back in the Spine again...but then there are other places as well I suppose.

That's right, Eldest 618, confirmed it.
"So many images and sensations flashed between them, Eragon almost lost track; Garzhvog's childhood with the other members of his brood in a ramshackle village built deep in the heart of the Spine; his dam brushing his hair with an antler comb and singing a soft song..."

Thanks, Fronzz!

There aren't many other ways for the land to sustain you: foraging, herding, hunting, fishing, and farming. Farming is the most dependable. They already have prime hunting grounds.

what about the yazuac, all the villagers are dead so why can't they live there?

becos the are people too close in daret

What DO urgals really do?

And maybe Urgals are Carnivores. So they wouldnt need to farm, I never recall hearing about what they eat.

i think they are just like humans as in they farm hunt trade and stuff like that although they probably are more primitive

Definatly they are more primative, but I dont know what they live off of, I think they are like humans, but it doesnt specify their nutritional needs anywhere that I am aware of.

yeah they probably don't farm as much as humans they just hunt all the time

Yeah, but they want land. the way to gain sustinance from land is to FARM!

Where do you think they would live? so far we've said the spine, yazuac, hadarac desert (joking), and the burnning plains.

i think just the spine cos everywhere else is to populated

hay what if they mingle with the humans and elfs and dowrfs cos like eragon might tell people they are good and show them cos if i remember they called parlay to talk to the vardon leader....

What about on the other side of Hadarac desert, near the Edda river no one really lives there.

Apart from the dwarven village of hedarth there isn't any people

Do you think it's a good place or not? I'm just picking random spots.

O O what about the dorwf vilage in the mountin with the star that saphira broke(sory about the spelling english is kind of hard)

Tronjheim wot about it?

yeah cos evewn after eragon searched Garzhvog's mind orik said he put his warriors close to him incase he attack eragon

hihi, i guess, trnojheim is pretty much the worst place for an urgal to stay. the dwarfs would tear them appart, besides that they would never agree to let them stay in farthen dur. and you can't really farm there, can you?

they could settle somewhere in the east near (or better not that near =P) Heddarth, or whatever its called.

there is no1 they could annoy or assault, because there are no elves, humans or dwarfs living. they have land to farm and they have water and everything they need, including game for hunting.

its called Hedarth hadarac is the desert

just a thought lol what if eragon takes the to the undiscoverd lands where the elvs came from u know

That's what I've been saying!!! The problem is that that ending would be WAAAAAAY too much like LOTR.

Maybe, he's going back to where his ancestors (the humans) came from, maybe to kill all ra'zacs who might live there or for some other reason we don't know yet.

Yeah, but the book'll end after they leave...

Yeah, but I think we will never know...

They don't even let Urgals in it, not to mention have part of it!!!