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LenoraSvitkona
Expert DragonRider
Joined: July 31st, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 1819 Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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 A Third Sibling
If a person is the stonger, it means their the stronger of two people. If a person is strongest it means their the strongest of three or more people.
Therefore, in the English language the "est" suffix has to have three things for it to be compared to to be gramatically correct. And unless our dear friend Chris completely ignores the rules of our language, Eragon has another sibling.
To further back up my opinion in the artice on Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_%28 ... trilogy%29) is said this, "Paolini has said that it is possible that Eragon may have unknown family members that have not been introduced so far in the series, though he did not confirm this."
Eragon is most likely the youngest of the family, as Selena died too soon after giving birth to him to have another child. But its a toss up to me as to whether Murtagh is a middle child or the eldest, I'd put my money on middle child though.
So, what do you guys think?
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Last edited by LenoraSvitkona on August 21st, 2006, 2:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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August 21st, 2006, 1:30 am |
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Lord Imfamous
Master DragonRider
Joined: June 30th, 2006, 11:57 pm Posts: 2640 Location: Hartland,Michigan// near brighton
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hmm maybe i've read that artica at wydieca ( what ever its called..lol) and i kinda think so but idk really
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August 21st, 2006, 1:59 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia
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The family member is BROM!!! Who is his father. DUH!!!
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August 21st, 2006, 2:08 am |
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LenoraSvitkona
Expert DragonRider
Joined: July 31st, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 1819 Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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the family member im talkin about is not brom - but brom may very well be his(or her) father
im talking about who the other sibling is giong to be (probly a new character), also if itsgoing to be a dragon rider, as the rest of the "kids" are
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August 21st, 2006, 2:12 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia
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A father is a familyy member. That would be another family member.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 21st, 2006, 2:20 am |
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Arya Svit-kona
Green Dragon
Joined: June 13th, 2006, 1:14 pm Posts: 7742
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that might b possible. im no english whiz, so i dont rly kno all da rules and stuff. my bro was sayin sumthin like this too. he said dat there was sum place in alagaesia called eldor. and sumhow he associated that to the word elder. so there wud b eragon, then elder, then eldest. but idk, guess we'll jus have to wait n see!
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August 21st, 2006, 2:43 am |
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Lord Imfamous
Master DragonRider
Joined: June 30th, 2006, 11:57 pm Posts: 2640 Location: Hartland,Michigan// near brighton
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god everything is wait for this.. now wait longer!! i hate it!! just HURRY UP AND WRITE THE STORY! srry bout thta.. ya i think their might be a nothing family member
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August 21st, 2006, 2:45 am |
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MapleSunday
New Peasant
Joined: August 17th, 2006, 3:53 am Posts: 18
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YOUR NOT A TOTAL WACKJOB AFTER ALL! (sorry for caps) If you say Wikipedia says about "Paolini has said that it is possible that Eragon may have unknown family members that have not been introduced so far in the series, though he did not confirm this." THIS IS possible... maybe.. just maybe.. the book "eldest" was named after Murtagh for being the oldest out of the 3 siblings ...
Then again.. maybe You and I are just being silly. Still ....
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August 21st, 2006, 4:09 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia
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MapleSunday wrote: YOUR NOT A TOTAL WACKJOB AFTER ALL! (sorry for caps) If you say Wikipedia says about "Paolini has said that it is possible that Eragon may have unknown family members that have not been introduced so far in the series, though he did not confirm this." THIS IS possible... maybe.. just maybe.. the book "eldest" was named after Murtagh for being the oldest out of the 3 siblings ... Then again.. maybe You and I are just being silly. Still ....
May I bring your attention to the bolded lettering. IT WAS NOT CONFIRMED!!!
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 21st, 2006, 1:12 pm |
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MapleSunday
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Joined: August 17th, 2006, 3:53 am Posts: 18
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Quote: May I bring your attention to the bolded lettering. IT WAS NOT CONFIRMED!!! Yea you're right. But you never know. CP always make some crazy twists like Eragon was the son of Morzan and the new rider was Murtagh _____________ http://www.ultimateshowdown.org Funny Funny[/quote]
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August 21st, 2006, 7:49 pm |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
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Yeah, but he is going to twist that right back in the other directon when Eragon finds out that Brom is his real father.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 21st, 2006, 7:55 pm |
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MapleSunday
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Joined: August 17th, 2006, 3:53 am Posts: 18
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Brom  Eragon's Farthen. Woah.. well I wonder if there would be a 3rd sibling. and if Brom was a Father then who was the Mother. Can't be Selena... could it?
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August 21st, 2006, 8:32 pm |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia
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There is the slightest chance that Nasuada is his siser, because we don't know her mother. But that's probably not true.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 21st, 2006, 8:38 pm |
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Osthato Chetowä
Expert DragonRider
Joined: March 11th, 2006, 5:51 am Posts: 1687 Location: in my three story brick "trailer" in WV
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There are a hundred or so theories based on the -est suffix. You're right, but it is never clearly stated that it refers to the eldest of the two families. It could refer to Glaedr being the eldest dragon. Or Murtagh being the eldest sibling. Lots of things are eldest in Eldest.
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August 22nd, 2006, 1:57 am |
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Arya Svit-kona
Green Dragon
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Osthato Chetowä wrote: There are a hundred or so theories based on the -est suffix. You're right, but it is never clearly stated that it refers to the eldest of the two families. It could refer to Glaedr being the eldest dragon. Or Murtagh being the eldest sibling. Lots of things are eldest in Eldest.
i never thought bout dat. its weird
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August 22nd, 2006, 3:12 am |
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AnnieBee
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Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT!
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I totally disagree. I do not think there is another sibling. AND, WIKIPEDIA is not a very reliable source!
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August 23rd, 2006, 4:25 am |
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Zaehirah
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Joined: July 22nd, 2006, 7:03 am Posts: 85 Location: In a fantasy playing in my mind
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I think you do have a valid point. I think it's possible but a bit unlikley. though it would be a good twist. A thought : mabey Roran is supossed to be the other brother, because they consider themseleves brothers. And about Eldest standing for the eldest dragon, that could be it but i don't think so, because in that chapter that's when Murhtagh says in the AL that they are brothers, it mentions nothing about Gladear. I think that the title could just be going along with the patern of titles. but who knows...
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August 23rd, 2006, 7:21 am |
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AnnieBee
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That ELDEST AND ELDER theory has been roaming around the net for months! I still believe it's unlikely!
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August 23rd, 2006, 7:52 pm |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
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You said it Annie!!!
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 23rd, 2006, 7:54 pm |
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Zaehirah
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Joined: July 22nd, 2006, 7:03 am Posts: 85 Location: In a fantasy playing in my mind
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i only just herd it. i've only been on here for about a month. i don't think it will happen, but it would be a good twist.
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August 23rd, 2006, 8:20 pm |
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bandbunny107
New DragonRider
Joined: August 26th, 2006, 7:57 pm Posts: 458 Location: R.I.P. Heath Ledger.. He will be missed
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yea i just heard this 2 i dnt no though its possible but the only person it could b unless he brings in a new charachter would b nasuada(cant spell) cause u dnt no who her mom iz but still thats unlikely selena w/ 3 men: morzan, brom, and aijhad? ( once again cant spell) thats kinda weird and how would she do that? eragon could have a twin once again though thats VERY farfetched.......
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August 31st, 2006, 1:23 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
Black Dragon
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Yeah. There is no other sibling.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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August 31st, 2006, 1:52 am |
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bandbunny107
New DragonRider
Joined: August 26th, 2006, 7:57 pm Posts: 458 Location: R.I.P. Heath Ledger.. He will be missed
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SOME 1 PLEAZ MAKE A NEW TOPIC! THIS IS BORING!!!!!! anyways yea theres no 3rd sibling
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September 11th, 2006, 9:15 pm |
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Firelight
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Joined: September 9th, 2006, 9:33 pm Posts: 36 Location: Oregon
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i'll agree that it's possible that brom is eragons father but i don't think its likely that there is a third sibling. and the title eldest more than likely refers to the fact that murtagh is eragons elder. hence eldest. a quote from the book:
"zar'roc should have gone to morzan's Eldestson not his youngest. it is mine by right of birth."
all the word eldest means is older. and as to the twin thing, eragon was born with garrow. he would have know if he was a twin.
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September 11th, 2006, 10:48 pm |
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Fathskie
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Uhmm... According to your theory (murtagh as a middle child) :
Selena + Mr. X = A third sibling
Selena + Morzan = Murtagh
Selena + Brom = Eragon
WOW... will ya look at that equation !! A lady with 3 men..!!
If your theory is true... Mr.X is someone she met before she was dragged to the palace. Otherwise, it is someone inside the palace, more powerful than Morzan... Galbatorix !!
Ah... not a chance...
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September 12th, 2006, 1:39 am |
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bandbunny107
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b 4 she ever met morzan or brom she could have had a child but i doubt it
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September 13th, 2006, 8:29 pm |
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