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I think Selena whose life was lost because of Brom

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AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	When dealing with Galbatorix, anything is possible and nothing should be ruled out! HE'S EVIL!!!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 13th, 2006, 12:45 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Yeah eragon needs to go all out when fighting Galby. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 13th, 2006, 3:15 pm

Gearfried BAD EMAIL Joined: November 12th, 2006, 12:47 pm Posts: 45	CP could have meant lovesick...
November 13th, 2006, 5:26 pm

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Yes theirs something to acknoledge _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
November 13th, 2006, 10:01 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	What do you mean by love sick? _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 15th, 2006, 2:49 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Scarecrow wrote: What do you mean by love sick? I would think what is meant by "love sick" is when you love a person and cannot make that love or union a reality for whatever reasons. And we have to acknowledge, Selena must have been pretty miserable living with Monster, I mean, Morzan. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 16th, 2006, 6:30 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Well she was the one that chose it, so I thought she loved him in the first place. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 20th, 2006, 10:54 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Oh and I totally agree with you, Scarecrow!!!! But once he must have felt sure she was totally heads over heels for him, he must have shown his true colors. It happens so often in real life... _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~ Last edited by AnnieBee on November 22nd, 2006, 9:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
November 21st, 2006, 11:53 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	So he liked her too then? I thought he just wanted some woman to be at his sides when ever he has an urge or something. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 22nd, 2006, 1:46 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	There may have been some attraction on his behalf. In fact, he must have felt some attraction towards her. Enough for him to woo her and take her with him when he left Carvahall. Then he may have seen her fall in love for him and he saw the possiblities of her being not only his lover but his personal tool . This information is given to us during Murtagh's recount of the story while they were isolated at their arrival at Farthen Dur. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 23rd, 2006, 12:44 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	So she pretty much was his you know what's it tool then, I guess. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 24th, 2006, 1:43 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL!!! We are all aware that Selena was Morzan's lover. Murtagh made that clear during his conversation with Eragon while locked up in Farthen Dur. When I say she was his "tool" I am referring to: “My parents met in a small village─I never learned where─while my father was traveling on the king’s business. Morzan showed my mother some small kindness, no doubt a ploy to earn her confidence, and when he left, she accompanied him. They traveled together for a time, as is the nature of these things, she fell deeply in love with him. Morzan was delighted to discover this not only because it gave him numerous opportunities to torment her but also he recognized the advantage of having a servant who would not betray him. “Thus, when Morzan returned to Galbatorix’s court, my mother became the tool he relied upon most. He used her to carry his secret messages, and he taught her rudimentary magic, which helped her remained undiscovered and, on occasion, extract information from people.” Eragon, 387-8 I believe this can explain any doubts you may have! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~ Last edited by AnnieBee on November 24th, 2006, 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
November 24th, 2006, 5:14 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	But he still used her none the less. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 24th, 2006, 3:38 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Yes, he used her mercilessly; oh but I think at the end of the day she really got even! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 24th, 2006, 6:56 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	How is that? _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
November 24th, 2006, 7:28 pm

thedragonwing DragonRider Joined: October 30th, 2006, 2:40 am Posts: 738 Location: at my house. its not like i ever go anywhere. my life is misery... except when i'm on saphira forums	yea, how did selena get even with morzan? _________________ [url="http://shruikanforums.com/"]I suppose i wont see you for a while, so avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax and look on the bright side of life! - Angela oooooooopps - Saphira. Right after she blows fire on eragon I am only safe in my innermost thoughts - Murtagh (\_/) (O.o) (")(") its bunny!!!! add him to ur signature for world domination! arya is not going to be the next rider!!! (but i'm not sure who is, probly roran) http://hubpages.com/hub/Seized-Vehicle-Auctions
November 29th, 2006, 9:15 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	You asked me and I'll tell you, but pls do not bite my head off. It's my personal theory. I think Selena eventually began to pass on information to Brom in regards of what Morzan may have been doing and planning. I think Selena was somehow tied with the rescue of Saphira's egg. I also think Brom passed out important information to Ajihad. Why else would Ajihad hand Brom's ring to Eragon and say: "That reminds me, I have Brom's ring, which he sent as confirmation of his identity. I was keeping it for when he returned to Tronjheim. Now that he's dead, I suppose it belongs to you, and I think he would have wanted you to have it.". [Eragon, 416] If Ajihad knew Eragon was Brom and Selena's love child, then it only seems natural to me he would assume the ring would now belong to his son, [Eragon ]and he [Brom] would want him [Eragon] to have it. So there it is, what a better way for Selena to get even with Morzan by falling in love with his #1 enemy, have a child with him and pass on important information which would eventually debiltate and damage the Empire, for which Morzan worked for and favored? _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 2nd, 2006, 6:17 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	That's a good theory, and it sounds very logical. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
December 2nd, 2006, 11:53 pm

thedragonwing DragonRider Joined: October 30th, 2006, 2:40 am Posts: 738 Location: at my house. its not like i ever go anywhere. my life is misery... except when i'm on saphira forums	ya, makes perfect sence _________________ [url="http://shruikanforums.com/"]I suppose i wont see you for a while, so avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax and look on the bright side of life! - Angela oooooooopps - Saphira. Right after she blows fire on eragon I am only safe in my innermost thoughts - Murtagh (\_/) (O.o) (")(") its bunny!!!! add him to ur signature for world domination! arya is not going to be the next rider!!! (but i'm not sure who is, probly roran) http://hubpages.com/hub/Seized-Vehicle-Auctions
December 2nd, 2006, 11:56 pm

SIEGEMASTER Sovereign DragonRider Joined: August 14th, 2006, 10:45 pm Posts: 3190 Location: Fighting alongside Baldur ^^That Guy^^ Gender: Guy	I dont think so that prbably isnt true. _________________ Muchos Gracias, Nate. Verd beh Aliit te Werda Verda~~Warrior of Clan Shadow Warrior
December 9th, 2006, 2:59 am

ChetowaVarden DragonRider Joined: December 6th, 2006, 3:37 am Posts: 792 Location: dallas	Jayde wrote: or maybe she died of grief. i think dying of grief is a urban (or should i say fantasy book) myth _________________ "The future doesn't exist and never shall." - Saphira <---- Bowser the Burrito <------ The idea smiley looks like a surprised cyclops! (\../) (0.0) (")(") It's a bunny. Im not going to tell you to copy and paste him for world domination. he's my bunny. I am CP's best friend. He says I am right about everything. Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? Final Fantasy Chetowävarden The Guarding Sage
December 9th, 2006, 3:00 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	SIEGEMASTER wrote: I dont think so that prbably isnt true. My friend, it may not be true, you are correct. It's a theory, a speculation, based on on hints, excerpts of the book and assumptions I have made after reading /listening to the books for so many times, I've lost count. Now can you give me a reason why you think it's not a possibility? Back up your statement with excerpts of some kind!!!:D _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 9th, 2006, 6:30 am

arya_shur'tugal Wise DragonRider Joined: July 26th, 2006, 8:45 am Posts: 1229 Location: Somewhere scary, listening to MCR, SOAD and other emo bands. But not cutting myself.. Gender: Guy Affiliation: Dwarves	I'MNOTCRAZY wrote: there weren't twins. Murtagh is older. and sigh i have said this forever... here is my boatload of evidence: Brom said, “She was full of dignity and pride, like Garrow. Ultimately it was her downfall, but it was one of her greatest gifts nevertheless. . . . She always helped the poor and the less fortunate, no matter what her situation.” He answered to Eragon’s question, “You knew her well?”, “Well enough to miss her when she was gone.” Also, Blagden said “Son and father alike, both as blind as bats” after being asked what his first prophesy ment. This denotes that Blagden had met Eragon's father. Morzan had never gone to Ellesmera, though Brom had. On pg. 435 of Eragon, Angela saya, "He (Brom) loved a woman, but it was his affection which was her undoing." So what happened was she was carrying Brom's child and Morzan found out. She went to Carvahall and had Eragon. She then ran off, running from Morzan, was caught, and then killed. This enraged Brom and Brom went and killed Morzan. Later, he went to Carvahall to keep an eye on his son, Eragon. that is the lot of it. it's enough to prove it I think. wow, you're right!!!! it is a boatload of evidence!!! _________________ Arya Svit-kona wrote: caterpillar SILVER I JUST NOTICED THE CHEST HAIR!!!!!!! The Lovable Silv wrote: LOL Ranga, you cannot steal my position as "Bullspit artist" so stop being so sarcastic haha!! Jking of course.. The Lovechild of Valk and Wolverein .[/color]
December 9th, 2006, 10:15 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	SIEGEMASTER wrote: I dont think so that prbably isnt true. You may be correct, I may be correct, but until the next book comes out, that's the best theory I can come up with in defense of Brom. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 12th, 2006, 6:42 pm

argetlam_svit-kona Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: December 15th, 2006, 11:44 am Posts: 210 Location: ellesmera - having tea with oromis	this might sound a bit weird but if you beleive that brom is the father of eragon(as i sort of do) then you must agree that she "got around a bit"( i can't think of any other way of putting it) so wouldn't it be ironic if galbatorix was the father of murtagh? that could be another reason why only he knew of murtagh's existance, someone said that they think selena fell for morzan was becasue he showed her " a little kindness" and i think it was annibee that said this could be that she was flattered that someone on high-rank was nice to her, well if she's smitten when a servent of galby is nice to her , wouldn't she be more than smitten if galby himself was nice to her? just a thought _________________ The future is for the living Eragon! - Brom
December 18th, 2006, 2:01 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	No I don't think Murtagh is Galby's son. I think he knew his true name because Morzan probably told it to Galby so in case Morzan ever died, Galby could get another under his control by using Mutagh's name against him. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
December 18th, 2006, 2:34 pm

argetlam_svit-kona Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: December 15th, 2006, 11:44 am Posts: 210 Location: ellesmera - having tea with oromis	oh yeh, didn't look at it from that angle ... but how would morzan know murtaghs true name? i thought only an elf could tell you and morzan never went to ellesmera _________________ The future is for the living Eragon! - Brom
December 18th, 2006, 2:36 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	I have no clue. Maybe Selena knew it and Morzan forced her to tell him maybe. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
December 18th, 2006, 2:39 pm

argetlam_svit-kona Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: December 15th, 2006, 11:44 am Posts: 210 Location: ellesmera - having tea with oromis	hmm yeh , a mother's suppost to know everything about her children, if that's ture then maybe selena told garrow eragons _________________ The future is for the living Eragon! - Brom
December 18th, 2006, 3:47 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Ummmm, guys & gals. We are kind of drifting from the topic. Remember:I think Selena whose life was lost because of Brom, ? Was it not? _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 18th, 2006, 8:46 pm

argetlam_svit-kona Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: December 15th, 2006, 11:44 am Posts: 210 Location: ellesmera - having tea with oromis	i supppose if you look at it from a certain angle you could say it was his dragon saphira, but part of that doesn't ft _________________ The future is for the living Eragon! - Brom
December 19th, 2006, 2:48 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Also it was Brom who kinda made Selena to lose her life. Morzan and Brom hated each other so I wouldn't be suprised if Selena blamed some what on Brom. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
December 19th, 2006, 3:12 pm

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Yep tahts correct, this being said its shame they were once acknoledged as lovers _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 20th, 2006, 12:13 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	WOOOOOOOOW!! Are you guys blaming Brom for Selena's death??? I can't believe it! Selena initially may have been wooed by Morzan, but I kind of have the feeling eventually she learned her lesson the hard way! Please read CAREFULLY My thoughts are: Selena was somehow involved with the recovering of Saphira’s egg. As Morzan's "personal messenger" she was privy to inside information. After realizing he never loved her, she hated Morzan for how and who he was and represented Let's list the reasons: -he wooed her into falling for him -he takes her away, but does not marry her -he teaches her some magic, not for her sake but to use her as a tool -she gets pregnant and he isolates her; again not for her protection but for his -she gives birth to her son and is separated from him by Morzan and he takes her back to his castle (you guys cannot imagine how in awe a new mother is of her child after it is held in your arms for the first time, I do I'm a Mom!) -she is allowed to see him ONLY when HE says so -he almost kills Murtagh at the age of three -he's constantly on the go on Galbatorix's instruction fighting the Varden who ARE GOOD! If these are not enough reasons to hate him and turn against him I don't know what would. Selena at some point meets Brom. She shares her sorrows and they become fast friends. Brom and Selena fall in love. She is already convinced of Morzan's evilness and decides to kill two birds with one stone: Help the Varden and exact her revenge. She gives important information of the Empire to Brom She learns more about the Varden their goal and aids as she can She helps steal one of the eggs, but in the process picks up the effects of a defensive spell the egg may have had. She becomes pregnant, again but fears for her unborn baby and "disappears" Galbatorix sends a legion of his people to find her, with no luck (after all she uses the rudimentary magic Morzan taught her, this time for her own defense. She returns to Carvahall, has Eragon and entrusts him to Garrow; gives no details so as to protect her baby and her brother (though I believe she must have told him something and Garrow kept it to himself) She returns to Morzan's castle sick and brokenhearted, but does not know yet Morzan is dead In the meantime Morzan has been killed, by no other than Brom Brom moves into Carvahall under the mantle of a storyteller. (Coincidence, I think not) Shortly after her return, to be exact, 14 days after her return she dies. Why on earth would Brom be responsible? I must be either blind or going crazy, cause I see no fault of his in this regard.!!!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 20th, 2006, 2:40 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Try reading the previous posts they have a few things you might wish to acknoledge _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 20th, 2006, 3:46 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Yeah and they should post it under the "I am tired of wishful thinking" thread. As I have said before in this thread and in other related, one of the underlying themes of the series is "Making Choices" for whatever reason Selena may have or not have, she made a choice, so why blame it on Brom? It's ludicrous!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~ Last edited by AnnieBee on December 20th, 2006, 3:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
December 20th, 2006, 3:50 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Then why not consider locking this topic? _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 20th, 2006, 3:54 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	One, because it's not my topic. Two, because we have to give the new members to post their thoughts on it, and three because there's always room for more debate!!!!!:lol: _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 20th, 2006, 3:59 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Sure your the moderator I'm just here to state my opnions, perpective wise, _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 20th, 2006, 4:01 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Sure!!! As I was saying, Selena was a big girl. She was capable of making her own choices. Since I am basing my theory on her choices, I cannot see why Brom should be responsible in any way of her death. We will have to wait for the last book, if ever we are to learn what really happened between her and Brom. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 20th, 2006, 9:02 pm

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Quote: In the meantime Morzan has been killed, by no other than Brom Brom moves into Carvahall under the mantle of a storyteller. (Coincidence, I think not) Shortly after her return, to be exact, 14 days after her return she dies. I kinda get what you said Annie but why did she die when Morzan wasn't even alive and bothering her anymore. To me it seems that since Morzan had died that she should/could of stayed in Carvahall but probably should of gone and got Murtagh then returned to Carvahall and stayed there and rested. That's what I think she should of done. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
December 20th, 2006, 9:56 pm

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Too bad she couldn't things might have beeen diffrent otherwise... _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 20th, 2006, 11:36 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Scarecrow wrote: Quote: In the meantime Morzan has been killed, by no other than Brom Brom moves into Carvahall under the mantle of a storyteller. (Coincidence, I think not) Shortly after her return, to be exact, 14 days after her return she dies. I kinda get what you said Annie but why did she die when Morzan wasn't even alive and bothering her anymore. To me it seems that since Morzan had died that she should/could of stayed in Carvahall but probably should of gone and got Murtagh then returned to Carvahall and stayed there and rested. That's what I think she should of done. Yes, you are correct in saying Morzan was dead, BUT not Galbatorix. Do you really think he would just stay sitting at his throne and forgetting about her? She would have been leverage to make Murtagh do horrible things early on. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 26th, 2006, 1:45 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	Yep I compleley agree wiht you their! (but apprentlly from the facts provided I think she died becuase of galby's curellty not becacuce of brom who was infact the only one who actaully cared for her) _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 26th, 2006, 3:00 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	I honestly don't have an idea as to how off the wall I am in my theory, but according to it, Selena's mysterious illness was caused by a protective spell the eggs may have had at the time of the theft. Again, my theory is totally off speculations. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 26th, 2006, 4:45 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	really a protective spell genrated by the eggs? Speucaltion or not tell me more!!! _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 26th, 2006, 10:27 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	No, a protective spell placed on the eggs by Galbatorix when he first had them in order to affect whoever touched them (other than himself) or tried to steal them. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 26th, 2006, 10:37 pm

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	oh cool were in either of the books did they mention this? _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 26th, 2006, 10:43 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL!!!!!!! It's not mentioned in the books because this is MY own, personal, crazy, wacko theory or speculation!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
December 27th, 2006, 2:16 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	WOW no wonder it didn't make any sense LOL _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
December 27th, 2006, 2:19 am

Pita New DragonRider Joined: December 23rd, 2006, 5:55 pm Posts: 361 Location: look right behind you and you will find out	That makes sense, but if selena liked brom so much, why was she with morzan for so long?
January 3rd, 2007, 2:06 am

I'MNOTCRAZY Black Dragon Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia Gender: Guy Affiliation: Elves	she loved him up until a point. _________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color] RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
January 5th, 2007, 5:51 am

Pita New DragonRider Joined: December 23rd, 2006, 5:55 pm Posts: 361 Location: look right behind you and you will find out	Then she fell in love with morzan?
January 5th, 2007, 6:32 am

Princess Elayna BAD EMAIL Joined: December 29th, 2006, 11:21 pm Posts: 600 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow <3	She and Brom did not have any kind of /that/ relationship. Morzan probably killed her or she just died of sickness or something. _________________
January 5th, 2007, 2:40 pm

Pita New DragonRider Joined: December 23rd, 2006, 5:55 pm Posts: 361 Location: look right behind you and you will find out	Maybe Brom is Eragons father and he gave her an STD and then she died. (crude but very possible) and it is not PG
January 5th, 2007, 6:18 pm

dragonmaster Peasant Elder Joined: January 7th, 2007, 3:58 pm Posts: 137 Location: ellesmera-annoying the elves with carrion	selena died bcos morzan found out she loved brom and poisoned her
January 7th, 2007, 7:13 pm

I'MNOTCRAZY Black Dragon Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia Gender: Guy Affiliation: Elves	or Galby did because he found out that she helped steal the egg and/or she loved brom. but not poison. a spell that made it look like she was sick. _________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color] RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
January 15th, 2007, 3:48 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL!!! I believe that was part of my theory!!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
January 20th, 2007, 7:37 am

Glenwing Expert DragonRider Joined: March 11th, 2005, 11:30 pm Posts: 1986 Location: Glasgow Affiliation: Dragonriders	IMNC please show respect to Annie! She is a member of the SF team and can make bad things happen. And finally people who agree kinda. I think Eragon's father was NOT morzan but Brom. I know I know, murtagh said so in the ancient language which makes it true. But remember Eragon's poem? He believed it to be true so could say it! So if Murtagh honestly thought that he could say so. That's why I think Brom was in Carvahall. Also Selena dying because of Galby seems a good idea! and morzan trained in ellesmera with Brom did he not? along with oromis? Or was that on The dragon island... cant mind the name not read books in 6 months or so =( _________________ http://s13.invisionfree.com/Chronicals_ ... hp?act=idx Colt 45 and 2 Zigzag
May 4th, 2007, 9:47 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Sorry Glenwing but I don't think he gets on anymore, I don't even think he will again till the third book comes out. I know your just saying but, I'm just telling you straight up. And I totally agree with you on the whole Brom is truly Eragon's father. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
May 4th, 2007, 10:05 pm

Dragon Rideress Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: March 31st, 2007, 9:13 pm Posts: 210 Location: Flying over Galby`s castle preparing for the attack! Gender: Girl	dragonmaster wrote: selena died bcos morzan found out she loved brom and poisoned her Woah,woah,woah! Slow down... Where or when did we find out that Selena loved brom? Is it a theory or is it in book _________________
May 4th, 2007, 11:25 pm

Serena Svit-Kona Sovereign DragonRider Joined: February 8th, 2007, 5:42 pm Posts: 3880 Location: In a romance story Gender: Girl Affiliation: Dragonriders	It is a theory, but i personally(sp?) think that Selena loved Brom and he loved her. I think that just added to all of Broms reasons for getting rid of Morzan. _________________ My fanfictions are here http://www.fanfiction.net/~serena530 check it out if you want They consist of: SailorMoon, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Blue Bloods, Yuyu Hakusho, and The Inheritance Cycle
May 4th, 2007, 11:46 pm

saphirabrightscale BAD EMAIL Joined: May 19th, 2006, 10:46 am Posts: 317 Location: Great Yarmouth, England Gender: Girl	she may have sacrificed herself...so that Morzan would never find out about Eragon... _________________ Astra esterni onothelduin, Mor'rnar unin hjarta onr, Un du evarinya ono varda. May good fortune rule over you, Peace live in your heart, And the stars watch over you. Mongooose Sisters ROK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 5th, 2007, 8:24 pm

Serena Svit-Kona Sovereign DragonRider Joined: February 8th, 2007, 5:42 pm Posts: 3880 Location: In a romance story Gender: Girl Affiliation: Dragonriders	Maybe she died of a broken heart. She had to leave her son with her brother to protect him from Morzan and Galbatorix, and who knows when the last time she saw Brom?! It could have been months since she last saw him which could have added to her misery. Not to mention the fact that Brom had killed Morzan so she didn't have to go back. But then she couldn't just leave Murtagh in the hands of Galbatorix could she. Although her dying is what lead to that actually happening. _________________ My fanfictions are here http://www.fanfiction.net/~serena530 check it out if you want They consist of: SailorMoon, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Blue Bloods, Yuyu Hakusho, and The Inheritance Cycle
May 5th, 2007, 9:38 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	I think I said this somewhere, at some point. It's hard to keep tabs being on so many forums.... Anyway, one of the underlying themes in the book is CHOICES. Therefore each character has made their choices based on their perceptions of what is the best thing to do in the here and now. I refuse to believe Selena died because of Brom. If it is true that Brom loved her "enough to miss her when she was gone" I cannot believe he would have purposely caused her death! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 13th, 2007, 9:09 pm

Rien.1234 Master DragonRider Joined: May 8th, 2007, 5:01 am Posts: 2058 Location: San Antonio Affiliation: Dragonriders	That is what I think but It might of been Eragons birth that coused her to get sick and die though. _________________ Characters Alvina, Fenlore Orome,Zef Horrin Rien,Esther
May 13th, 2007, 9:37 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Well there is a thing called Post-Partum depression and if not attended it can lead to death (suicide). _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 13th, 2007, 9:40 pm

Rien.1234 Master DragonRider Joined: May 8th, 2007, 5:01 am Posts: 2058 Location: San Antonio Affiliation: Dragonriders	True but we can't tell without more facts but I don't think Brom was the couse of her death. _________________ Characters Alvina, Fenlore Orome,Zef Horrin Rien,Esther
May 13th, 2007, 9:43 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL! I agree. Brom (if my theory is true) does not seem to be the one to be as cruel as to cause her death. I would expect that from Morzan, not Brom. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 13th, 2007, 11:02 pm

Rien.1234 Master DragonRider Joined: May 8th, 2007, 5:01 am Posts: 2058 Location: San Antonio Affiliation: Dragonriders	But Morzan was hunting Brom and the Egg at the time and also Selena was a asset to Morzan becouse she had some power and would not (but she did) betray him. _________________ Characters Alvina, Fenlore Orome,Zef Horrin Rien,Esther
May 14th, 2007, 1:26 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	How do we know that she has power? _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
May 14th, 2007, 1:30 am

Rien.1234 Master DragonRider Joined: May 8th, 2007, 5:01 am Posts: 2058 Location: San Antonio Affiliation: Dragonriders	Becouse In one of the books I'm not sure wich one we are told she was tought the basics of magic and could use some spells. _________________ Characters Alvina, Fenlore Orome,Zef Horrin Rien,Esther
May 14th, 2007, 1:36 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Ok, but could you be a little more specific? _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
May 14th, 2007, 1:42 am

Rien.1234 Master DragonRider Joined: May 8th, 2007, 5:01 am Posts: 2058 Location: San Antonio Affiliation: Dragonriders	I will look for the exact page. _________________ Characters Alvina, Fenlore Orome,Zef Horrin Rien,Esther
May 14th, 2007, 1:50 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Ok good so then I agree with you. _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
May 14th, 2007, 1:50 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	I am lazy today, so I am not copying it. But you can find the excerpt in the Chapter, "Hunting for Answers; specifically on pages 387-388 in Eragon, US hardcover Edition! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 14th, 2007, 2:24 am

Scarecrow Green Dragon Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm Posts: 8229 Gender: Guy	Oh thanks Annie, thanks alot. I really appreicate this!!! _________________ [URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL
May 14th, 2007, 2:26 am

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