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Post why cant the razac use magic?
Seriously why cant they

are they stupid are some thing

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They're obviously not magical creatures. Or maybe they can, but they just keep it secret like the riders did, so they have an advantage in battle.

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I think they on a exoskeleton stage for 20 years (you know, before they turn into... forgot the name, the "Parents"), they really weren't on their perfect shape right now, as ra'zac.

And also, remember that ra'zac is not live to oppose eragon as a rider (it's a "bad luck" for them happened to oppose a rider), they were sent to hunt down Eragon as a farmboy!

They're already given tallent and skill morethan enough to prey and defeat humans trough speed, vision, and strength.. I don't think they need magic anyway...

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Every race has its weakness(es). Why can't most humans use magic? Are we stupid? Magical ability has no corralation with intelligence, you can either find the void, or you can't.

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and the elves just have more people who can do it, and the ra'zac's parents are lethr'blaka

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To use magic you must say some word in anciend language (or in something like this) and they have baek=>it will ne difficuld to have right pronunciation with beak don't you think?

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ya, its hard to speak english for them.

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ya, its hard to speak english for them.
there all hisses and stuff

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ya like if they say bringser they will say brigssser

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durza killer dont double post

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i had ment to edit it, i don't know why it double it.

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maybe ur comp was going slow and u double clicked it

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Elves and humans can use magic due to their connection with the dragons, correct? And dwarves use spells they've learned from elves. So, isn't it safe to say that because generations of Ra'zac have not been taught magic or linked with magical creatures, they can not do magic at all?

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yea


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it was being slow. and nice avatar islanzadi, but they surely clashed with dragons, but no dragon would be linked to an evil critter like them. brom said,

"No, no dragon would carry a razac" (or sumtin like that)

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the dragon would be annoyed by the hissing

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Yeah because fully grown ra'zak has a wings :idea:

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the dragon is all like why are u flying me when u have ur own wings

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lol u cant use magic... are u stupid lol

no i was jk but maybe because theyd be like way too strong lol

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u should have read the previous page before posting spikesniper

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hmmm, practically what svit kona said. Just more sensibly.

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LOL, when entering a topic i read last page and if i can't get what you guys are flappin jaw about i go to snecojnd to last page, so let im learn.

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yea the only time i read everything is rpg and the dragon council thing

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hmm, i have never posted on dragon councsil thingy, even theough i am technically part of them, i apllied and was excepted

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than get ur but over there

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maybe it will be only elders

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dragon council??? rpg??? wth??? isnt rpg= role playing game?? lol

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then whats a dragon council??? (im off topic but i kinda wanna know)

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just go to forum dragon rider council and click the first one i think it says it there

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where might that be??

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It might be hidden, or locked unless you're a dragon rider, I don't know. Anyway, Image

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oo. dang it... that means i will prollly never get to see it! lol

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ra'zac have't spoken so far so i doubt they can speak

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yes they have how in the world do u think htey got information from sloam( i hate him if it wasnt for him garrow would still be alive)

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they would have still found garrow.

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yea but still they can talk

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the ra'zac have spoken a lot.

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hasn't read a part where they talk/cna't remember them tlaking

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slow agian? just wondering.

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what do u mean slow again and can we get back on topic

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yu duble posted right be fore i said
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slow agian? just wondering

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yea my computer was going slow i get mad wahen that happens so i keep cliking any way lets get back on topic

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they couldn't because it they can't say it like other races can.

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wait wat i dont understand u

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Ra'zac can't speak normally, so that means maybe thats the biggest gap between them and magic, and remeber it describing eragon reaching for it? maybe they don't have that little bit of magic, any of them.

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exactly... that would be my explanation too

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maybe it is because they can't be trained in the art of the mind like attack with it and stuff like that

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thats what i siad, eragon woulnd't be able to magic if he didn't have that little "nub" (thats how CP described it) that he breaches to get to the magic so maybe none of the Ra'zac have that "nub"

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Svit-kona wrote:
Every race has its weakness(es). Why can't most humans use magic? Are we stupid? Magical ability has no corralation with intelligence, you can either find the void, or you can't.


Touché Svit-kona!! Brom mentioned to Eragon that they had no magical powers. They had other weapons that bested the humans.

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ra'zac can protect there minds so they could do magig
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Eragon the 1st elf wrote:
ra'zac can protect there minds so they could do magig
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Did you read the books carefully?
I have REALLY read AND listened to the books many times and do not recall any excerpt which indicated that Ra'zac could protect their minds. In regard to the Ra'zac and magic , I looked up this for you:

See Eldest page 381 second paragraph: "Though Ra'zac cannot use magic, they are not to be underestimated. If they know you hunt them, they will not reveal themselves but keep to the shadows, where they are strong, and plot to ambush you as they did by Dras-Leona."

I have noticed that you seem to oppose the opinion and thoughts of other posters but never offer facts from the book to uphold your oppositional point of view.
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i mainly state my opinion but in exact words from the books

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Opinions should be backed by facts and you just, post one opinion in one post and then go ahead and contradict what you just said in another post.

Anyway, I always thought the forum was to discuss the books, clarify things in them that may have not been clear to the reader, share thoughts, try to form theories of what may come to be and so on. There are times when we joke about one thing or the other and write crazy, crazy things and that's what makes this site so much fun. But that is not the impression which I am conveying from your posts.
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BACK TO THE TOPIC; WHY CAN'T RA'ZAC USE MAGIC?

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they not be able to use magic but they have vile breath

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ya, its hard to speak english for them.
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I think the hissing is a way for the reader to mentally relate them to snakes. Snakes are usually representative of everything evil.

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oh yeah but they have bird like faces not snake heads

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oh yeah but they have bird like faces not snake heads

I was merely making a comparison. It was just a metaphor, a figure of speech; if you know what I mean.

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but maybe there beaks make them look like vultures, a evil bird.

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i don't think vultures have eyes as big as a fist

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Yep, you are right. Vultures have keen eyes, but not a fist size one like the description given of the Ra'zac.

You know, I wonder if we will get to see them in the movie!

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seeing them in the movie would be cool.
one thing i like about an author helping with the movie is that they help clear up questions we may have by showing it through the film. so maybe there will be an answer in the movie.
i do like the compairison of their hissing to a snake. that is a good observation. :D


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Why tank you Arya-Sahpira. I love the series and sometimes I think it reaches the height of obsseion. Good obssesion, but obssesion nevertheless.

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arya-saphira wrote:
seeing them in the movie would be cool.
one thing i like about an author helping with the movie is that they help clear up questions we may have by showing it through the film. so maybe there will be an answer in the movie.
i do like the compairison of their hissing to a snake. that is a good observation. :D
they would be very scary though :twisted:

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scary but man it wo;uld be great


(it would scare the crap out of my sister though)

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i'm saying, snakes are evil, so are vultures, so they would be evil, not saying vultures have eyes the size of fists, save that for this guy :shock:

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yeah they would probably freak all the liitle kids in the theatre out


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thats why the parents just cover there eyes! :lol:

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ya, its hard to speak english for them.
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yeah so if they tried to use magic theyde all have to get "hooked on phonix" so they could pronounce the magic words right


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"hooked on phonix"?

but if they just tryed to say it they would destroy themselves, if they can even tap into the magic, rmember, the dragons are how you get magic, so if a Ra'zac was never dragon rider (and no dragon would carry a Ra'zac) they could not do magic

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dragons dont always trigger magic

some dwarfs can use magic and NO dwarf has been a dragon rider

so the razac's promblem as i see it is

they cant pronounce the magic or

they cant tap into it


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i think its both, cna't tap into and can't pronoucne. remember, its all hisses and clicks.

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yeah so brisngr would be like

(click)sssssss(click)

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i dnt they have magic cause whats the point? all they would use it 4 would b 2 kill people which they already do w/o it

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