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AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	DOESN'T IT STRIKE YOU AS WEIRD THAT... Doesn't it strike you weird that: - Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar all knew about the existence of Murtagh? - Ajihad knew the identifying feature that would point him out as Morzan's son - Morzan was summoned away to hunt for Saphira's egg, and Selena vanished shortly after and not even Galbatorix could find her. - Selena returned before word of Morzan and the others death reaches Galbatorix. - She returns many months after, her health was poor, "as if she suffered a great illness" and died within 14 days of her return. (effects of a spell?????) - Angela tells us that; "He [Brom] loved a woman, but it was his affection that was her undoing." Was this woman Selena, and her "undoing" maybe her participation in providing, or faciliting the theft of Saphira's egg, and maybe affected by any protection spells the egg may have had? I'm just posing the same questions and thoughts which have surfaced as discussing the books with Ann-Marie, (my crazy daughter). What do you guys make of these? _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~ Last edited by AnnieBee on November 2nd, 2006, 2:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
May 30th, 2006, 6:25 pm

F'lar05 Peasant Elder Joined: May 7th, 2006, 6:22 am Posts: 95	I have always belived Ajihad had more to hide about his past thany many. Not many people can survive a fight with a shade and know the voice of Morzan without it being one of the last things they heard. Also, I agree Selena may have giving information about how to steal the egg, but I don't think she participated in it. Her undoing was Brom's affection. It led her to give birth to a child and maybe even die from it days later. _________________ "Son and Father alike, both as blind as bats"-Blagden "The longer you walk upon a path, the farther you see it is to the end"-Lex Luther (Smallville)
May 30th, 2006, 6:38 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Totally agree, Ajihad had too many secrets. No wonder he was Brom's friend. Proof of his mysterious ways is the fact that no one can tell where he comes from or who was Nasuada's mother. I also think that she was an informant to the Varden in revenge to the horrible treatment she received from Morzan and knowing that Brom was his enemy may had made it more appealing. But, I don't know, maybe once she met Brom, they fell in love and we know the rest. She returns many months after, her health was poor, "as if she suffered a great illness" and died within 14 days of her return. That part leads me to believe that she was not ill because of giving birth to Eragon, but like some type of curse or something. Or maybe she died of heartache having to give up her second child in order to protect him. But if this was the case, since she was weak, Galbatorix could have easily invaded her mind and wrestle the information from her. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 30th, 2006, 7:05 pm

RORAN STRONGHAMMER DragonRider in Training Joined: December 19th, 2005, 10:30 pm Posts: 632 Location: Lennoxville, Canada, Qc	or mabye brom is eragons father (if brom liked selena) but his love for her was her undoing (did she get an S.T.I?) _________________ Embassy of Piracy - we are building a new kind of network Cutmi, pastmi, kopimi Internets is in different forms assimilate, copy and swarm!
May 30th, 2006, 9:15 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	I hope that (STI) doen't mean what I think it does! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 30th, 2006, 9:33 pm

F'lar05 Peasant Elder Joined: May 7th, 2006, 6:22 am Posts: 95	Giving birth to Eragon maybe have cause her death in this way. She could have had a rough birthing and then had to leave that or the next day and the return trip was to rough on her and add the fact she had to say goodbye to the man she really loved and her youngest son. All of this could have weighed down upon her causing her death. _________________ "Son and Father alike, both as blind as bats"-Blagden "The longer you walk upon a path, the farther you see it is to the end"-Lex Luther (Smallville)
May 30th, 2006, 9:35 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Yes, she may have suffered post partum depression, having to be separated from her child AGAIN... I wouldn,t envy her. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 30th, 2006, 9:42 pm

RORAN STRONGHAMMER DragonRider in Training Joined: December 19th, 2005, 10:30 pm Posts: 632 Location: Lennoxville, Canada, Qc	AnnieBee wrote: I hope that (STI) doen't mean what I think it does! its a type of disease that u can get when your really... intimate with someone (to but it in a warning-free way) _________________ Embassy of Piracy - we are building a new kind of network Cutmi, pastmi, kopimi Internets is in different forms assimilate, copy and swarm!
May 30th, 2006, 9:43 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Exactly what I thought, anyway, let's get back on topic. Remember our site is mostly made up of young peope and I do not think it is appropiate to make these types of comments. At least, I as a Mom, wouldn't like to think that my child is on a web-site I consider safe and run into something like this. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 30th, 2006, 9:48 pm

F'lar05 Peasant Elder Joined: May 7th, 2006, 6:22 am Posts: 95	I agree she probably did suffer a kind of depression afterwards, plus maybe even some kind of sickness from birth. This would give credit to how Brom's love was her downfall. _________________ "Son and Father alike, both as blind as bats"-Blagden "The longer you walk upon a path, the farther you see it is to the end"-Lex Luther (Smallville)
May 30th, 2006, 9:57 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	You're right! That would make Angela's comment true. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 30th, 2006, 10:06 pm

Shurtugal94 New Peasant Joined: May 27th, 2006, 2:04 pm Posts: 22	RORAN STRONGHAMMER wrote: or mabye brom is eragons father (if brom liked selena) but his love for her was her undoing (did she get an S.T.I?) Why else would Brom be in Carvahall _________________ WARNING: If you go much farther you enter a dangerous place, my mind.
May 30th, 2006, 11:21 pm

F'lar05 Peasant Elder Joined: May 7th, 2006, 6:22 am Posts: 95	Well people who think Morzan is the father say he was to keep an eye on his enemies son. That isn't true for one, because Saphira said it and also how would he know Eragon would become a rider. He just wanted to watch out for his son like any loving father would. _________________ "Son and Father alike, both as blind as bats"-Blagden "The longer you walk upon a path, the farther you see it is to the end"-Lex Luther (Smallville)
May 31st, 2006, 12:01 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	YESSSSSSSSS! I am inclined to believe he was waiting in Carvalhall untill he was called upon by the Varden and in the meantime he could watch his son grow from afar. We should keep in mind that Eragon mentioned that Brom, the storyteller, was kind of grumpy, but always had time for him. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
May 31st, 2006, 12:43 am

JonathanZ New Peasant Joined: June 3rd, 2006, 3:04 pm Posts: 4 Location: Denmark	I dont think Brom is Eragons father. Why wouldnt he take care of him himself? If magical powers are a genetic determined thing, it was likely that Eragon had magical gifts, because Morzan was very powerfull, and he is his father. I think this is how Brom thought. So he just kept an eye on him to find out if he was gifted, and what side he was likely to join. Maybe Brom promised Selena to keep and eye on her son, in exchange of valuable informations? _________________ Im singing to my oak every day. Hoping to turn it into a canoe. I hope im doing it right
June 3rd, 2006, 3:33 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	JonathanZ wrote: I dont think Brom is Eragons father. Why wouldnt he take care of him himself? If magical powers are a genetic determined thing, it was likely that Eragon had magical gifts, because Morzan was very powerfull, and he is his father. I think this is how Brom thought. So he just kept an eye on him to find out if he was gifted, and what side he was likely to join. Maybe Brom promised Selena to keep and eye on her son, in exchange of valuable informations? On the other hand if Brom is Eragon's father he would also have the genetics in magic. If you recall, Brom hid in Carvahall after he slew Morzan, this was so because waiting to be called in by the Varden in case the stolen egg hatched. Somehow, (to me at least) it doesn't seem in character of Brom to do that type of emotional bribing. His comment on "...well enough to miss her when she was gone" points to this effect. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
June 3rd, 2006, 6:45 pm

Eragon13 Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: August 14th, 2006, 5:40 am Posts: 261 Location: Ellesméra Gender: Guy Affiliation: Elves	anniebee has a point at the begining _________________ "Live in the present, remember the past, & fear not the future. For it does not exist & never shall. There is only now"~Saphira In war truth is the first casualty. History is written by the victors. plz click the egg dont let a dragon die
August 16th, 2006, 7:47 pm

Lord Imfamous Master DragonRider Joined: June 30th, 2006, 11:57 pm Posts: 2640 Location: Hartland,Michigan// near brighton	hmm nice i never though of that.. very intersting _________________
August 17th, 2006, 5:32 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	You can always count on me to pick a book to pieces.!! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
August 17th, 2006, 9:15 pm

kaji.shurtugal Peasant Joined: August 16th, 2006, 10:58 pm Posts: 42 Location: On Thrier	It is possible that Brom is Eragon's father, but there are .. 'lines' in the book that say otherwise. I would have to agree that it is true. When Murtagh states that they are 'brothers' it could be that their mothers are the same, but their father is different, thus meaning they are half brothers, and when Murtagh stated it in the ancient language, it would still be true. If you get where i'm going... _________________ Name: Kaji Age: 163 Skills: Swordsmanship, Archery, Magic Dragon: Thrier Dragon Hide: Red Weapons: Red Rider's Blade and Shield, Elvish Bow
August 17th, 2006, 10:22 pm

Scipioashton New Peasant Joined: August 25th, 2006, 1:39 am Posts: 20	If Brom was eragons father, and he was over 100 when he died, then even 85 is too old to make babies, even for a rider without a dragon. _________________ uhh eragon is cool
August 25th, 2006, 2:09 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Are you forgetting that Morzan was older than Brom; and he fathered Morzan? If this is a fact, then it is assumed that Brom would have been able to father Eragon as he is like 2 yrs younger than Murtagh! Besides, we do not know the physiological effects of the joining of the dragons and the Riders. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
August 31st, 2006, 11:14 pm

Scipioashton New Peasant Joined: August 25th, 2006, 1:39 am Posts: 20	Umm You are correct. I suppose I was wrong then... But Brom didn't have a dragon, so the effects on him lessened. x.x _________________ uhh eragon is cool
September 1st, 2006, 4:29 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	I suppose so, but stiil, he was younger than Morzan! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 2nd, 2006, 4:35 pm

Scipioashton New Peasant Joined: August 25th, 2006, 1:39 am Posts: 20	ya ya, but morzan still had his dragon so therefore he was immortal, and he could still work lots of magic, unlike brom, who couldn't work much magic. i'm not saying brom wasn't eragons father, but it could be anyone amost. but not morzan. _________________ uhh eragon is cool
September 2nd, 2006, 4:56 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	The ability to father a child has nothing to do with being a Rider! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 3rd, 2006, 11:40 am

Scipioashton New Peasant Joined: August 25th, 2006, 1:39 am Posts: 20	ya it does of you are over 100 years old. the oldest real person to father a child was like 80 i think. or younger. but this is a book so brom could be his dad. _________________ uhh eragon is cool
September 3rd, 2006, 6:27 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL! Yes, you are correct; and the framework of the storyline seems to enable really ancient people to have kids. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 3rd, 2006, 6:31 pm

dcshin00 Peasant Elder Joined: September 6th, 2006, 11:45 pm Posts: 97 Location: seoul korea	i hav a thought. can ajihad be eragons father? we don know ajihad's wife.
September 8th, 2006, 5:18 pm

Firetongue Global Moderator... Joined: November 28th, 2005, 3:44 pm Posts: 10150 Location: England Gender: Girl Affiliation: Surdans Dragon: Llyelia	Well, Ajihad is black, so I would say probably not... Even if Eragon's mother was white and his father was black, he would be mixed race. And if anyone would prefer me to use the word "coloured" than black, just say and I'll change it _________________ . . . . . .
September 8th, 2006, 6:04 pm

dcshin00 Peasant Elder Joined: September 6th, 2006, 11:45 pm Posts: 97 Location: seoul korea	ajihad was black those it says on a book i never knew it
September 9th, 2006, 4:28 am

i am argetlam2 New Peasant Joined: September 25th, 2006, 4:35 am Posts: 22	i think brom might be his father coz y did murtagh stay with morzan and eragon stayed with garrow and shouldnt garrow no who his sister had a child with???
September 25th, 2006, 5:08 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	dcshin00 wrote: ajihad was black those it says on a book i never knew it "His skin gleamed the color of oiled ebony." (Eragon, 402) I thought it was clear, but then I forget that we have a lot of people which English is not their first language. LOL! It sure isn't mine! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 26th, 2006, 12:22 am

Dawn Warrior Wise DragonRider Joined: February 8th, 2006, 10:09 pm Posts: 1432 Location: CANADA Gender: Guy	AnnieBee wrote: dcshin00 wrote: ajihad was black those it says on a book i never knew it "His skin gleamed the color of oiled ebony." (Eragon, 402) I thought it was clear, but then I forget that we have a lot of people which English is not their first language. LOL! It sure isn't mine! I must have missed that part as I don't remember it in the story. _________________ Faithless is he who says goodbye when the road darkens---JRR Tolkien However long the night, the dawn will break---African Proverb If there's a Will, there's a way!
September 26th, 2006, 1:23 am

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL! I caught that because I'm a book/story picker! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 26th, 2006, 4:10 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	I'm not attempting to be racised but I thought he was skin texture was brown! _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
September 26th, 2006, 8:49 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL! Sometimes we convey different mental images from what we read. But Ebony and brown are two different shades. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 28th, 2006, 2:56 am

Lord Zaragonth Wise DragonRider Joined: September 5th, 2006, 8:57 pm Posts: 1012 Location: The refugee of the past the esscnesne of my future (my mind)	he he he...my mistake _________________ " KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! " " Bring their leaders to me!" - Mouth of Souron " The begining of a New evolution...."- Lord Reginer Curretnally: A desperate adddict of Fantasy particuaillary games Hopes to be: A Zooloist ULTIMATE LIFE STATUS: Consumed by my own passion
September 28th, 2006, 8:35 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Lord Zaragonth wrote: he he he...my mistake Since English is not my first language, I would not have made the connection, if I had not been a Beatles fan, back in the days. I enjoyed your "he he he". It's refreshing! _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
September 30th, 2006, 1:20 am

I'MNOTCRAZY Black Dragon Joined: July 12th, 2006, 5:32 pm Posts: 5379 Location: Bethesda, MD; my computer; lala land; Alagaesia Gender: Guy Affiliation: Elves	how can you read over that??? NIGHTSTALKER!!! because of the tunnels AND "the color of his hide". _________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color] RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
September 30th, 2006, 1:34 am

Keever McD Sovereign DragonRider Joined: August 30th, 2006, 5:51 am Posts: 4650 Location: Home Gender: Girl Affiliation: Lamp Shade	AnnieBee wrote: dcshin00 wrote: ajihad was black those it says on a book i never knew it "His skin gleamed the color of oiled ebony." (Eragon, 402) I thought it was clear, but then I forget that we have a lot of people which English is not their first language. LOL! It sure isn't mine! Also there is a part near the end of the second book where Roran ask Eragon if, I cant remember her name but, Ajihad's daughter was wearing make up or somthing cause he had never seen any one with that texture of skin. _________________ █ ♥ █ They/them/their pronouns please █ ♥ █
October 25th, 2006, 7:17 pm

ladyofthelost DragonRider Joined: October 17th, 2006, 5:56 pm Posts: 854 Location: somewhere, there's no gravity, and common sense has died, guess where i am cause i don't have a clue	maybe there's something we couldn't even guess at hidden in the third book some information about it that is more specific and necessary that could completely destroy these theories _________________ Where the gods fear to tread That where evil makes its bed That is where they grow and grow and that is where you must go (\../) (O.o) (")(") Help me take over the world!!! we took a wrong turning it's nobodies fault we followed our hearts and now we're lost we kept on going no thought of cost and this is the consequence please read and comment on my story http://www.saphiraforums.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=3206 please read and comment on my songs http://www.saphiraforums.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=4283 Aren't i demanding after several painful attempts i stopped getting Vivi!!! Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? Final Fantasy 7
October 30th, 2006, 4:45 pm

Keever McD Sovereign DragonRider Joined: August 30th, 2006, 5:51 am Posts: 4650 Location: Home Gender: Girl Affiliation: Lamp Shade	Yeah, I personelly dont like to make predictions. I like to see it when it happens. I dont even want to see a trailer until I see it. I have made a vow to myself if I go to a movie and the trailer is at the begging or I see it on TV, I will shut my eyes and plug my ears. _________________ █ ♥ █ They/them/their pronouns please █ ♥ █
October 31st, 2006, 11:41 pm

shadowagent 0 Master DragonRider Joined: October 26th, 2006, 8:12 pm Posts: 2040 Location: At the lair...of the BUNNY Gender: Guy	Keever McD wrote: Also there is a part near the end of the second book where Roran ask Eragon if, I cant remember her name but, Ajihad's daughter was wearing make up or somthing cause he had never seen any one with that texture of skin. I just wanted to say, that if you ever forget Nasuada's name again, I will cut a whole in your neck and rearange your throat so your heart stops everytime you breath. So anyway, how's the weather? _________________ http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
November 1st, 2006, 3:40 am

Saphirarox Cycle Moderator Joined: June 5th, 2006, 4:56 am Posts: 5409 Location: North of here, south of there Gender: Girl Affiliation: Dragonriders Dragon: Melanthor	Shadowagent, where did you get that avatar? My band teacher wrote that on a piece of paper and stuck it to the band hall door. It was awesome!! Remember, Eragon was a farm boy. So his brown skin could very well be a tan. _________________ You are most like SAPHIRA Like the majestic dragon, Saphira, you are brave and ferocious in battle but also deep in ancient wisdom. You think before flying headfirst into battle. You prefer the solitude of the wilderness to the populated cities of Alagaesia. SF Facebook Raven & Oceanis, Tobias & Avalon, Taren, Valora, Liam, Aero, Arston & Arturos, Jason, Lee & Melanthor, Silas, Asa & Naor, Darian, Illuna, Blake, Anastasia, Luka, Rok, Gwen, Ryker There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
November 1st, 2006, 4:13 pm

Keever McD Sovereign DragonRider Joined: August 30th, 2006, 5:51 am Posts: 4650 Location: Home Gender: Girl Affiliation: Lamp Shade	Hey, its been a long time since I read the book. I cant find my first book and I havnt had time to read the second one again. _________________ █ ♥ █ They/them/their pronouns please █ ♥ █
November 1st, 2006, 5:34 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	Well, if I have my mental pictures correct, by the end of Eldest must have been very "light skinned" seeing he was more of a elf than the farmboy who left Carvahll, after the "Gift of the Dragons". _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 2nd, 2006, 3:01 am

fronzz Global Moderator. Joined: June 20th, 2006, 7:52 pm Posts: 5390 Location: Wherever I want to be Gender: Guy Affiliation: Dwarves Dragon: Drakk	Yeah...spending all his time in a forest...almost no sunlight...one word..PALE. _________________ "Oh bother" Said Pooh as the tripwire clicked. "I am a Christian and I will not be silenced" One day, a fireman came up to me and said, "Sir, we've been called to put you out, you're too hot!"
November 2nd, 2006, 3:58 pm

AnnieBee Admin Joined: March 13th, 2006, 12:43 am Posts: 10912 Location: Freezing every night and LOVING IT! Gender: Girl Affiliation: SF Rebels Dragon: Imnaha	LOL!!! Not necessarily, he did do some flying with Glaedr and Saphira. _________________ ~.~.~.~.~.~
November 3rd, 2006, 6:36 pm

brmbward New Peasant Joined: November 15th, 2006, 11:21 pm Posts: 22 Location: Wyoming Gender: Girl	Perhaps there is more to the story than one thinks.... What if Galbatorix DID find Selena. What if she was with Brom? She was pregnant with Eragon... So she ran to her brother. She knew Galbatorix was once again getting close, so she ran again, but he found her and punished her which is why she was sick to the point of death.
November 16th, 2006, 7:58 pm

Gearfried BAD EMAIL Joined: November 12th, 2006, 12:47 pm Posts: 45	that actually makes sense! _________________ Dragons....
November 26th, 2006, 10:26 am

Dragon fan Wise DragonRider Joined: January 1st, 2007, 9:32 am Posts: 1164 Location: points Over there! Gender: Girl Affiliation: Elves	Re: DOESN'T IT STRIKE YOU AS WEIRD THAT... AnnieBee wrote: Doesn't it strike you weird that: - Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar all knew about the existence of Murtagh? - Ajihad knew the identifying feature that would point him out as Morzan's son - Morzan was summoned away to hunt for Saphira's egg, and Selena vanished shortly after and not even Galbatorix could find her. - Selena returned before word of Morzan and the others death reaches Galbatorix. - She returns many months after, her health was poor, "as if she suffered a great illness" and died within 14 days of her return. (effects of a spell?????) - Angela tells us that; "He [Brom] loved a woman, but it was his affection that was her undoing." Was this woman Selena, and her "undoing" maybe her participation in providing, or faciliting the theft of Saphira's egg, and maybe affected by any protection spells the egg may have had? I'm just posing the same questions and thoughts which have surfaced as discussing the books with Ann-Marie, (my crazy daughter). What do you guys make of these? im only interested in the fact that galby couldnt find selena. is there someone powerful enough 2 hide from galby? im so, how come they havent faced him? _________________
February 15th, 2007, 6:20 am

Saphira_6o5 New Peasant Joined: January 20th, 2007, 1:13 am Posts: 6 Location: High in the sky...	It's all just one big confusing story, but when the 3rd book comesz out were gonna hit ourselves in the head and say, "Oh!!!!" _________________ You know you love it!!!
February 15th, 2007, 1:12 pm

Serena Svit-Kona Sovereign DragonRider Joined: February 8th, 2007, 5:42 pm Posts: 3880 Location: In a romance story Gender: Girl Affiliation: Dragonriders	Re: DOESN'T IT STRIKE YOU AS WEIRD THAT... AnnieBee wrote: Doesn't it strike you weird that: - Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar all knew about the existence of Murtagh? - Ajihad knew the identifying feature that would point him out as Morzan's son - Morzan was summoned away to hunt for Saphira's egg, and Selena vanished shortly after and not even Galbatorix could find her. - Selena returned before word of Morzan and the others death reaches Galbatorix. - She returns many months after, her health was poor, "as if she suffered a great illness" and died within 14 days of her return. (effects of a spell?????) - Angela tells us that; "He [Brom] loved a woman, but it was his affection that was her undoing." Was this woman Selena, and her "undoing" maybe her participation in providing, or faciliting the theft of Saphira's egg, and maybe affected by any protection spells the egg may have had? I'm just posing the same questions and thoughts which have surfaced as discussing the books with Ann-Marie, (my crazy daughter). What do you guys make of these? I'm really curious about all of these. I did find it odd that Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar knew about Murtagh, and how did Ajihad know about Murtaghs scar?! What if there is someone out there powerful enough to hide Selena from Galby. I mean Murtagh had constantly been on the move so he wouldn't be found by Galby, so how did she do it? _________________ My fanfictions are here http://www.fanfiction.net/~serena530 check it out if you want They consist of: SailorMoon, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Blue Bloods, Yuyu Hakusho, and The Inheritance Cycle
February 15th, 2007, 6:19 pm

Dragon fan Wise DragonRider Joined: January 1st, 2007, 9:32 am Posts: 1164 Location: points Over there! Gender: Girl Affiliation: Elves	Re: DOESN'T IT STRIKE YOU AS WEIRD THAT... Serena Svit-Kona wrote: AnnieBee wrote: Doesn't it strike you weird that: - Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar all knew about the existence of Murtagh? - Ajihad knew the identifying feature that would point him out as Morzan's son - Morzan was summoned away to hunt for Saphira's egg, and Selena vanished shortly after and not even Galbatorix could find her. - Selena returned before word of Morzan and the others death reaches Galbatorix. - She returns many months after, her health was poor, "as if she suffered a great illness" and died within 14 days of her return. (effects of a spell?????) - Angela tells us that; "He [Brom] loved a woman, but it was his affection that was her undoing." Was this woman Selena, and her "undoing" maybe her participation in providing, or faciliting the theft of Saphira's egg, and maybe affected by any protection spells the egg may have had? I'm just posing the same questions and thoughts which have surfaced as discussing the books with Ann-Marie, (my crazy daughter). What do you guys make of these? I'm really curious about all of these. I did find it odd that Ajihad, Angela and Hrothgar knew about Murtagh, and how did Ajihad know about Murtaghs scar?! What if there is someone out there powerful enough to hide Selena from Galby. I mean Murtagh had constantly been on the move so he wouldn't be found by Galby, so how did she do it? i think the varden should have known about murtagh's existance. i mean, morzan's(1st, im sticking 2 what the book says until il says otherwise) son should have a great impact on the varden. and who would want to keep morzan's son a secret anyway? _________________
February 17th, 2007, 9:26 am

rosered Wise DragonRider Joined: February 22nd, 2007, 11:07 am Posts: 1351 Location: Ruins of the underworld.....(Under your bed, Tiger....) Gender: Girl	O,O,O!!!here is something very stupid: what if brooms love WAS selena nad that broom was actually eragons father!! that would be sooo awsom my imagination going wild....LOL... _________________ TWILIGHT <3 " I dream, therefore, I exist." - J. August Strindberg "You all laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." - John Davis "You don't have time to see if it's worth it. Just trust your heart & hope it turns out right. You gotta take some chances, You gotta risk it all, you gotta close your eyes and jump cause it might be worth the fall..."
February 25th, 2007, 2:22 am

EbrithilArya DragonRider in Training Joined: December 2nd, 2006, 3:46 am Posts: 579 Location: Where ever I flippin want! GOSH! Gender: Girl	Um, that's actually a very popular theory. awkward silence OK so anyway up until a couple of days ago I would highly believed that Morzan was Eragon's father. But I just thought of something the other day that I know sounds insane but just hear me out. You how Solemnbum has only ever talked to 3 people other than Angela. Selena, Eragon, and a blind beggar Now think about it, Solemnbum must be very selective and it must follow a pattern. So, maybe the pattern is Eragon's direct family! I think the blind beggar maybe Eragon's dad. Remember Blagden's riddle? "Son and father alike, both as blind as a bat". OK while he may have meant this figuratively for Eragon, Blagden may have meant it literally for the blind beggar. Now, who is this blind beggar anyways? You tell me. Also this is just a weird idea and I have not thought it out much, sorry. _________________ September 20 can't come soon enough....
February 25th, 2007, 8:29 pm

rosered Wise DragonRider Joined: February 22nd, 2007, 11:07 am Posts: 1351 Location: Ruins of the underworld.....(Under your bed, Tiger....) Gender: Girl	yeah , i thought it might be a popular theory...but i'm kind of new so i haven't read a lot...YET... that might be possible arya ...i hadn't actually thought abot that...ummm... _________________ TWILIGHT <3 " I dream, therefore, I exist." - J. August Strindberg "You all laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." - John Davis "You don't have time to see if it's worth it. Just trust your heart & hope it turns out right. You gotta take some chances, You gotta risk it all, you gotta close your eyes and jump cause it might be worth the fall..."
February 25th, 2007, 10:44 pm

ak47 New Peasant Joined: February 27th, 2007, 11:04 pm Posts: 21	on page 2 of this discussion (a very loose term) every one was talking about the effects on age of reproduction. Maybe losing your dragon makes you sterile?
March 15th, 2007, 1:54 am

Sauron Expert DragonRider Joined: February 24th, 2007, 10:38 am Posts: 1853 Location: Mordor Gender: Guy	Methinks thaty after angela read selena's future she must have been so shocked about giving birth to the first dragon rider of a new generation that she killed herself soon after giving birth so the knowledge that eragon would be a dragon rider wouldn't reach galby before eragon had actually become a rider. Selena killed herself for the good of alagaesia, knowing that eragon would be a weapon against galby. That is probably why he was named eragon anyway, because he is the leader of a new generation of riders, just like the first eragon was the leader of the first riders. _________________ Forum Rules Ranking System Forum Help Files SF Support Helpdesk DragonRider Application
March 15th, 2007, 7:48 am

bammmbanggg Wise DragonRider Joined: March 17th, 2007, 5:12 pm Posts: 1199 Location: Relient K concert	All this seems true, i think CP has alot to uncover in the next book! _________________ A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a best friend will be sitting right next to you, saying, "MAN! that was fun!" yo, i like skaterboarding
March 20th, 2007, 10:41 pm

Sauron Expert DragonRider Joined: February 24th, 2007, 10:38 am Posts: 1853 Location: Mordor Gender: Guy	I wonder why CP decided to make such a complicated plot? _________________ Forum Rules Ranking System Forum Help Files SF Support Helpdesk DragonRider Application
March 22nd, 2007, 9:06 am

Silver Tears DragonRider Joined: March 16th, 2007, 12:31 am Posts: 700 Location: somewhere, waiting for the water to find me, to embrace me, to make me a part of itself.	wow u guy r smart lol i would have never thought of something like this but ok. it does make sense. plus i would be a lot happier if eragon was brom's son instead of morzan's. _________________ http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u48/ ... 07/th4.png I'm not CRAZY!
March 22nd, 2007, 5:00 pm

Sauron Expert DragonRider Joined: February 24th, 2007, 10:38 am Posts: 1853 Location: Mordor Gender: Guy	Re: wow u guy r smart Silver Tears wrote: lol i would have never thought of something like this but ok. it does make sense. plus i would be a lot happier if eragon was brom's son instead of morzan's. Morzan is out of the question for eragon's dad, I don't think you have nothin to worry about. _________________ Forum Rules Ranking System Forum Help Files SF Support Helpdesk DragonRider Application
March 24th, 2007, 10:17 am

EbrithilArya DragonRider in Training Joined: December 2nd, 2006, 3:46 am Posts: 579 Location: Where ever I flippin want! GOSH! Gender: Girl	You can't put Morzan out of the running! There are just as many facts supporting the opinion that Morzan is Eragon's father as there are supporting Brom. I really just don't know who is the father. Maybe they should get a DNA test lol . _________________ September 20 can't come soon enough....
March 24th, 2007, 3:07 pm

Firetongue Global Moderator... Joined: November 28th, 2005, 3:44 pm Posts: 10150 Location: England Gender: Girl Affiliation: Surdans Dragon: Llyelia	Except you can't test the fathers, because they're both dead _________________ . . . . . .
March 25th, 2007, 9:24 am

RiderNadav Peasant Joined: April 2nd, 2007, 4:33 pm Posts: 49 Location: Somewhere...	F'lar05 (in a different forum) wrote: Brom is Eragons father IMO. I've already given numerous reasons on this site that backs up this theory. One of which is Blagden's three riddles. Here is an example: Son alike Father, both as blind as bats. This states that Eragon like Brom is blind to the betrayls of those close to them(Murtagh and Morzan). Blagden was not talking about Morzan as he has never met him before and Morzan was never blind he knew what he was doing. Brom just couldn't see the evil in his best friend. Eragon just like Brom couldn't see the evil in the one who had become his best friend and then turns out to be his half-brother. The only evidence that supports Morzan being his father is Murtagh stating it in the AL. Now you can say you can't lie in the AL, BUT you can state something that you belive to be true even if it isn't. Murtagh knew they shared the same father so why shouldn't they share the same father. Even Galbatorix thinks this is true. Plus, why would Brom go live in the same village as his enemy who would never have contact with the egg as far as he knew. He risked his life doing this. Only a loving father who would want to be near his son to watch him grow up, would risk his life like that. Understand what F'lar'05 wrote about the AL. The "blind as bats" riddle is one riddle that Blagden used, here's another: Quote: While two may share two, And one of two is certainly one, One might be two. This means (Everything I added is in brackets): While two [people, Eragon and Murtagh,] may share two [parents], And one [parent, the mother, Selena,] of [the] two [parents] is certainly one [of the parents], One [of the parents, the father(s)] might be two [different people, Brom, father of Eragon, and Morzan, father of Murtagh] Princess Elayna (in a different forum) wrote: Sighs WHY would Brom reveal he was a Dragon Rider INSTEAD of him being Eragon's father? I mean, on his deathbed, wouldn't Eragon be better off learning that Brom was his father instead of Brom being a Dragon Rider? What point would there be if Brom was instead of Morzan? What would Brom being Eragon's father cause in the third book that'll be worth noting? Nothing... It'll just be boring. Imagine you never new who your father was and you know this stranger and he's friendly to you. You would never imagine that he is your father. And then imagine he was dying. If he told you he was your father you would completely go out of your mind. And then imagine that Brom told Eragon and he knew that Brom was his father. If someone that worked for Galbatorix would enter Eragon's mind and find this out, Galbatorix would hear of this and would assume that Eragon was raised by Brom and was taught about magic and trained as a Rider, by Brom, one who was powerful enough to kill eight of the forsworn, then at the battle at the end Eldest, Galbatorix would come himself to fight and it would have been a forgone conclusion. To visit my poll click here. _________________ Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass! Nadav, Rider of Roslarb
April 8th, 2007, 6:54 pm

Just_Toasty New Peasant Joined: April 19th, 2007, 6:04 pm Posts: 6	[quote="JonathanZ"]I dont think Brom is Eragons father. Why wouldnt he take care of him himself? If magical powers are a genetic determined thing, it was likely that Eragon had magical gifts, because Morzan was very powerfull, and he is his father. I think this is how Brom thought. So he just kept an eye on him to find out if he was gifted, and what side he was likely to join. Maybe Brom promised Selena to keep and eye on her son, in exchange of valuable informations?[/quote] I like that idea, Its very intresting! However I am kind of leaning towards the Brom being Eragons father theory but there are quite a few holes in the reasoning for that argument. Though as for why Brom wouldnt take care of him I think that he might have thought announcing himself as Eragons father would be endangering Eragon if the Empire ever foudn out. Maybe? I dont know, guess we'll have to wait for book three! Place your bets everyone! _________________ I tried to sniff coke but the ice cubes got stuck I’m not quiet, I’m plotting That sounded like your head - Eragon (Movie)
April 19th, 2007, 7:13 pm

evelyn101 Dragon Egg Carrier Joined: April 19th, 2007, 6:12 am Posts: 186 Location: new zealand	another way of looking at it is that brom could also be morzan, think about it when morzan went to hunt for the egg brom pops out of no where and people say that brom killed morzan bt was it in an open field so people accually saw them fight?
April 20th, 2007, 3:39 am

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