actually i believe the tie was by morzan?

ne way,well ALMOST all that can be done WHILE the dragon is growing up...keep in mind now arya would waste this time...yes she wouldnt need it but still...what would she do during this time?

ok roran on the other hand,yes does need some of those skills(count out swordsmanship...umm...hammer with a blade....sword....i think hammer will suffice)BUT hes got eragon....and i bet u roran and eragon take out the razac...how would that not prove hes a great fighter?

he could learn AL and magic in the (what was it 6?) months it takes a dragon to grow...now his magic wouldnt be perfect and his vocabulary would need sum tuning but dont u think that when their going to...wherever they go,eragon wont feel extremely weird with arya?

bored??? BORED?!?!?! THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE BORED!!! 6 months is IT!!! Eragon trained for nearly a year, counting his over-6 months with Brom and his time in Ellesmera. Even with 6 months of hard training, it's not enough. and no, hammer-beating skills don't count as swordsmanship. He didn't take on anyone who actually could use a sword well.

0_0 HE FOUGHT WITH THE RAZAC!

and why cant being skilled in a hammer count as swordsmanship(it would be called hammerman ship i guess)its still a melee weapon,still affective vs soldiers....and it even has a blade!

It could count as swordsmanship, but I dunno. I think Arya wouldnt become the next rider. Maybe CP just wants all of us to think that and then he changes it completely. I think Arya is too serious and a bit annoying and Eragon said he would verse Galby alone somewhere in Eldest I think.

We're all thinking here about someone on the Varden's side being a rider. But remember GALBY is the one that has the egg and like Brom said it would be suicide to try and steal the egg. So I think Arya won't get the egg. Katrina will, then she'll serve Galby and Eragon will fight and kill Galby, then Murtagh and Katrina will come back to the Vardens side.

As for the thought of Arya becoming a Rider and not needing any training in magic. While she is strong in the spells and AL words known by elves, some only the Riders knew, so you can be certain that Galby knows them to. So she would still need to train for a while, even if it's not for as long as Eragon does.

And another thing, it's been two years since Eragon bonded with Saphira. It says so in Eldest. (Actually it's been longer, the two years was for how long he's been using magic.)

thanks for the help Saphirarox.

for the last time BEATING SOMEONE WITH A HAMMER WITH A SPIKE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE DOES NOT I REPEAT NOT COUNT AS SWORDSMANSHIP!!! Anyone that has skill with a sword could easily kill him.

Well, they could always put Katrina in danger and let him work his strength out then... lol,jk

I really cannot see Ayra being a Rider and keeping it quiet.
And if she had the shinning palm then Durza would have noticed it, don't you think?
Somehow to me it seems out of Ayra's character to doubt her abilities. Eragon is the hero of the story, thus, he will defeat Galbatorix.
The others are just pieces of the puzzle who will work in order for Eragon to complete the same!

Or Durza knew about her little dragon secret and just didn't told us about it It will also answer on question why they didn't kill her

They didn't kill her from the start because they needed her to figure out where the elves, Varden, and dwarves are hidden. Remember, Galby is a master at breaking into people's minds, so he would have been able to search her memories with ease.

They could have used any elf for interrogation. It's like deer hunt: prey is very shy, fast and rare but when you find some first thing you do is trying to dodge the attire. Only difference is in number of legs.

*raised eyebrow* I'm from the country, but the 'dodge the attire' part made absolutely no sense to me...

Not to mention she was the only elf they ever managed to catch alive. She didn't have time to suicide because she had to transport the egg. They wouldn't have even known where to go to catch Arya if the Twins hadn't told someone, either Galby or Durza. She was basically their only hope of finding the information they needed, unless they had caught either Faolin or Glenwing alive, which they didn't, because they killed them right off the bat.

i think they know where Du Weldenvarden is. i mean its a forest almost the size of the empire not to mention it borders the empire so they would have to be pretty stupid to now know where it is. not to mention... how could they have killed the dragon riders if they didnt know where it is. not to mention galby and the forswone were all riders so they all have been there.

Annie, I feel sorry for your students. If you do this much research for your leisure activities, I'd hate to see what you make them do for an assignment.

Good one Saphira, but remember I am an Early Childhood teacher now, so many of the 5th-9th Grade students in the Plainfield school district are safe from me!

But the point is that I love to slap evidence on the table when I know I am right, and in this case I DID prove that Galbatorix and Durza had reasons to keep Ayra alive and that they DID NOT KNOW how to get to Du Weldenvarden!

(I should have been a lawyer!!)

No, Annie, never a lawyer. Nobody likes a lawyer. (lol,jk)


You want to hear something off topic but I find refreshing? I reserved a copy of DH last night. I don't even have to leave the house to pick it up. They deliver it. 'Course, I would have liked it better if I could have go to the store to pick it up, but Grandma said there wasn't no way she was going to go to a store that late for a book.

i agree. i've said this before, and i'll say it again: arya makes the most sense to be the next rider

1:my strongest supporting idea of arya being a rider is that shes trained, and roran or others arn't, and as long as it took eragon to train, do they have time to train a new rider, oromis is almost dead.

2: Roran, as well a other possible candidates, have no training with a sword, and that adds more time to train them.

3: Galby won't give them time to train. He'll (unless there's some miracle or other such thing) relentlessly hammer the varden untill they are destroyed.

4:eragons training with oromis was rushed, but still took months and was incomplete, would you be able to adequatly train a rider in less time?

i just dont think ayra will be a rider

Well, the more I think about it, the more likely it seems she will be. I don't WANT her to be, but it seems more and more like she will be.

maybe he's trying to get us to think about who we want it to be until we are completely set on Arya(which i am) and then its some peson we would never thought would be the rider just to surprise us. if that happens i will probably drop the book and walk away for about 5 minutes but i don't know...just a thought

EY KIOKU!!! How are ya?! been a long time!!!

nah, I have to disagree. it's probably someone we know. it's not going to be someone random, like Jarsha!

good theory but i dont think so cuz the color of magic means nothing and that dragon egg [color=#00FF00][/color]could have been from broms dragon (he never said the color of it) or maybe the elves kept it from the first eragon and his dragons shell...(im guessing color of magic depends on mood, power of spell, strength, spells capability, and/or, the type of spell for example...brisingr is red and/or blue but that doesnt mean eragon only uses magic with the colors blue and red)

it's FORESHADOWING. the color of Arya's magic is just foreshadowing.

now, your theory about the spell is wrong. everyone has a color. any spell they cast is that color. Brom actually has blue magic since his dragon was blue (i.e. why she was named Saphira). Magic is by default a certain color for people, but they can make another color of they so choose. When someone gets a dragon, their default color is changed to the color of their dragon.

arya is not a dragon rider!!!

Lol, not YET, you mean. And whoever said that we don't know the color of Brom's dragon, go study the names of the gems again. I'm pretty sure sapphire (blue) sounds a lot like Saphira (the name of Brom's dragon.) lol, jk. (I hope that doesn't sound as harsh to y'all as it does to me, it's a joke.)

Hey!!! The Jarsha idea was my theory, thank-you!!!:evil:.....

Lol, oh well. When I first said it I did admit it was a little random. (I think...I did didn't I??? *Runs to look for that post*)

arya WON'T Be a dragon rider

*Praying for patience* Ummm, xwon3? In all the topics where you and I and other people debate, you never give a reason for your side of the argument. You just state it as fact and holler if we don't agree. I'm trying to be nice, but my patience is wearing...

Just saying that Arya won't be a Rider isn't good enough, I'm sorry. Give me some evidence to support it, and I'll try to look at it from your angle.

Anywho... *back on topic* I believe Arya will be a Rider because her magic is green, and that's supposed to be the color of the last dragon egg. Not to mention that she's an elf, so she won't need much training, which will save time. Not to mention there needs to be an elf Rider to balance out the Rider/race thing. Eragon: Human, Arya: Elf, and elf magic is what makes the bond between the dragons and their Riders. Not to mention, there's only 2 Riders on the Varden side, and one is crippled. They need another Rider to help Eragon defeat Galbatorix and Murtagh.

Yes, I agree with you!

I agree, although I'd like to be someone totally unexpected, it just makes sense for Arya to be the next rider. She wouldn't need as much training and that would make it and easier and faster process to defeat Galbatorix.

Oh, have y'all heard about that new Inheritance website? I already joined, seems pretty cool. Go to: http://www.vroengardacademy.com

Yes! I very well agree!